Some of you may think this sounds like a weird comparo with all these processors targeted at different segments altogether...
It's also not a very detailed report....I had posted it for another user, Mavericko who wanted buying advice for a laptop....
But I hope that this will come in useful for a lot of other people too:
If someone wants me write a more detailed report, I will do that ...As of now, I am not even sure if this might come in useful for anyone so don't want to go thru a huge effort for nothing...
Also, Plz Forgive the typos :
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There's another intersting fact that not many are aware of.....That a Celeron M is as good as a normal P-IV but with the addd advantage of lower battery consumption....
Recently, me and a couple of other friends did a comparo of our laptops and this is what we found:
Test configs:
1-My Compaq V2010 with Pentium-M 725 (1.6 Gig) with 512 MB ram, 4200 RPM 40 GB HDD and Intel Extreme Graphics (1250 $ ~ 55K) and wide-screen ( 1280X768 ) display
2- Friedn's Compaq V2035 with Celeron -M 1.5(52K Chennai price + 2.7K for extra RAM), 512 MB RAM (2X256) 4200 RPM 40 GB HDD and Intel Extreme Graphics (Rupees-52K)and wide-screen ( 1280X768 ) display
3- Friend's Toshiba S-331 (don't rem the xact no) with P-IV 3.06, 256 RAM, 40 GB HDD, on board gfx Radeon 7000 IGP (think he paid 61K for this 1 month ago)
4- My desktop with AMD Sempron 2400, FX5200, 80 GB 7200 HDD, 256 MB RAM
I have posted the benchmark results that we ran from what remains inmy memory..(but I do have all the results (exact figures) on an xls somewhere, so if someone is interested, I will take the pain of hunting for it
))
a) Performance: We ran a lot of benchmarks + also tried gaming with Unreal Tourney and UT 2004 @ 800X600
The benchmark whose results I remember (And would be relevant for many of you as this benchmark taxes purely the CPU ) is Super Pi (calculates the value of Pi to a pre-defined number of digits)
Super Pi at 2 Million digits (all non-essential apps shut down)
1- P-M 725- 2 min 20seconds
2- Celeron M Laptop - 2 min 37 seconds
3 - P-IV laptop - 2 min (but it got appallingly hot while running the test)
4- Sempron Desktop: 2 Min 34 seconds
Now in % terms, that's not really much of a difference b/w the P-M and C-M, is it?
Unreal Tourney (Original): Don't rememeber the FPS count but the gameplay was extremely smooth on all the systems (easily <40fps on all)
UT 2004:
Desktop- Very playable with avg fps over 35 fps
My laptop: Decent Playability with fps in the range of 25-30 but with all effects turned off
Celeron Laptop - Surprisingly, it yielded the same fps nearly all the time (probably the bottleneck was the GFX subsystem ) (again with all effects turned off)
Toshiba Laptop: FPS~30, but game kept crashing ...also the laptop was consistently hot to the touch....
Interpretation: On board GFX on current gen laptops are fine enuff for casual gamers, but for someone who wnats to play the latest and greatest stuff, A GFX card is a must...
More importantly, A laptop will never match the performance of a desktop (though we didn't have a laptop with a good GFX card, but other factors like HDD speed etc will drag the sysstem down even on one with a decent GFXcard...)
B) Battery life: Config 1 gives an average battery life of 3-3.5 hours with average load (surfing + word processing etc), so does config 2, config 3 has a poor battery life ~1-1.5 hr
1,2 have a 4.4 AH battery...not sure abouth the battery capacity of the Toshiba Model
C) HDD speed: Tested using HDtune for burst Data access rate
-All the laptops gave an Avg 24-25 MBps (blame it on the 4200 RPM HDDs)
- The Desktop gave ~40 MBPS
D) weight : 1 and 2are 2.5 kgs, config 3 is 3.1 kg
FInal Thoughts:
1- The price difference between a Celeron M and Pentium M doesn't justify the performance diffference.....
2- A P-IV may be faster than a M series (Dothan or Banias core ) processorbut the high heat dissipation and battery drainage makes it a bad choice for a laptop...Howver, the superior (??) architecture of the M series ensures that even at a ~1/2 clock speed of a P-IV, the performance difference is miniscule
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__________________
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep
Angels can be seen in heaven's keep
Alone in fear they question why
Goddamn not an angel when I die !!!
It's also not a very detailed report....I had posted it for another user, Mavericko who wanted buying advice for a laptop....
But I hope that this will come in useful for a lot of other people too:
If someone wants me write a more detailed report, I will do that ...As of now, I am not even sure if this might come in useful for anyone so don't want to go thru a huge effort for nothing...
Also, Plz Forgive the typos :
------------------------------
There's another intersting fact that not many are aware of.....That a Celeron M is as good as a normal P-IV but with the addd advantage of lower battery consumption....
Recently, me and a couple of other friends did a comparo of our laptops and this is what we found:
Test configs:
1-My Compaq V2010 with Pentium-M 725 (1.6 Gig) with 512 MB ram, 4200 RPM 40 GB HDD and Intel Extreme Graphics (1250 $ ~ 55K) and wide-screen ( 1280X768 ) display
2- Friedn's Compaq V2035 with Celeron -M 1.5(52K Chennai price + 2.7K for extra RAM), 512 MB RAM (2X256) 4200 RPM 40 GB HDD and Intel Extreme Graphics (Rupees-52K)and wide-screen ( 1280X768 ) display
3- Friend's Toshiba S-331 (don't rem the xact no) with P-IV 3.06, 256 RAM, 40 GB HDD, on board gfx Radeon 7000 IGP (think he paid 61K for this 1 month ago)
4- My desktop with AMD Sempron 2400, FX5200, 80 GB 7200 HDD, 256 MB RAM
I have posted the benchmark results that we ran from what remains inmy memory..(but I do have all the results (exact figures) on an xls somewhere, so if someone is interested, I will take the pain of hunting for it
))a) Performance: We ran a lot of benchmarks + also tried gaming with Unreal Tourney and UT 2004 @ 800X600
The benchmark whose results I remember (And would be relevant for many of you as this benchmark taxes purely the CPU ) is Super Pi (calculates the value of Pi to a pre-defined number of digits)
Super Pi at 2 Million digits (all non-essential apps shut down)
1- P-M 725- 2 min 20seconds
2- Celeron M Laptop - 2 min 37 seconds
3 - P-IV laptop - 2 min (but it got appallingly hot while running the test)
4- Sempron Desktop: 2 Min 34 seconds
Now in % terms, that's not really much of a difference b/w the P-M and C-M, is it?
Unreal Tourney (Original): Don't rememeber the FPS count but the gameplay was extremely smooth on all the systems (easily <40fps on all)
UT 2004:
Desktop- Very playable with avg fps over 35 fps
My laptop: Decent Playability with fps in the range of 25-30 but with all effects turned off
Celeron Laptop - Surprisingly, it yielded the same fps nearly all the time (probably the bottleneck was the GFX subsystem ) (again with all effects turned off)
Toshiba Laptop: FPS~30, but game kept crashing ...also the laptop was consistently hot to the touch....
Interpretation: On board GFX on current gen laptops are fine enuff for casual gamers, but for someone who wnats to play the latest and greatest stuff, A GFX card is a must...
More importantly, A laptop will never match the performance of a desktop (though we didn't have a laptop with a good GFX card, but other factors like HDD speed etc will drag the sysstem down even on one with a decent GFXcard...)
B) Battery life: Config 1 gives an average battery life of 3-3.5 hours with average load (surfing + word processing etc), so does config 2, config 3 has a poor battery life ~1-1.5 hr
1,2 have a 4.4 AH battery...not sure abouth the battery capacity of the Toshiba Model
C) HDD speed: Tested using HDtune for burst Data access rate
-All the laptops gave an Avg 24-25 MBps (blame it on the 4200 RPM HDDs)
- The Desktop gave ~40 MBPS
D) weight : 1 and 2are 2.5 kgs, config 3 is 3.1 kg
FInal Thoughts:
1- The price difference between a Celeron M and Pentium M doesn't justify the performance diffference.....
2- A P-IV may be faster than a M series (Dothan or Banias core ) processorbut the high heat dissipation and battery drainage makes it a bad choice for a laptop...Howver, the superior (??) architecture of the M series ensures that even at a ~1/2 clock speed of a P-IV, the performance difference is miniscule
-
__________________
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep
Angels can be seen in heaven's keep
Alone in fear they question why
Goddamn not an angel when I die !!!
