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<blockquote data-quote="blr_p" data-source="post: 1149808" data-attributes="member: 10952"><p>You notice there are a lot 'citation required' tags in that wiki article. So how credible are the sources used in that wiki article ?</p><p></p><p>Also how signficant is a difference of '2' ie 100 & 98 on this Bioavailiability scale.</p><p></p><p>Cpl of points here, if you're a vegetarian then i agree you want to use supplements, i'm not so beef & fish were defnitely on the menu that too on a daily basis, more the tuna in cans than beef tho.</p><p></p><p>The other one is the the formula you used to arrive at the protein intake. I'm not familair with it and wonder how it compares with what i did when i was into this game. I set as target, the amt of calories to have and then worked a 60% carb, 30% protein and remainder as fat. As i upped the calorie intake, i made sure the others filled in and adjusted the diet based on this. This down to the bodytype i have, typical ectomorph, those ratios vary if you are meso or endo.</p><p></p><p>Sure.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope, my intention with that post was for someone building not fitness, i keep forgetting that fish & beef are off limits for you guys <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>In that case your only opton is to take supplements.</p><p></p><p></p><p>something to do with having 9 amino acid chains vs 7 (ie incomplete with veg proteins), can't remember the exact terminology, if you know your stuff then you would understand what i mean.</p><p></p><p>No need as I was the one that called the ambulance when my friend got hit and he pretty much never fully recovered from it. He bought his eggs from a supermarket that did not refirgerate them and he stored them above the fridge, he'd been doing it that way for many years, it only took one bad egg to bring this mighty guy down.</p><p></p><p>But the secret is eggs stored at 4 degrees C ie in a fridge do not allow salmonella to increase, refirgeration is vital or your playing the numbers. That's it even if you come across a bad egg that you don't catch you should be ok.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My attitidue if you choose to call it that was questioning the validity of this bioavailability theory, and no its not been substantiated at all, you want to show me some more credible evidence go ahead. The personal hygene & health sectors are loaded with scams and flimsy claims, it's smart to be sceptical about anything in these areas.</p><p></p><p>But my stance here is weakened considerably more by the fact that you guys are veg, that already cuts out a lot of availiable protein so i defnitely agree you have to supplement with protein powder. So you take whey or whatever is out there. I never bothered with it and also never heard others doing it unless it was much more specialised in the competing line again these guys were not veg.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="blr_p, post: 1149808, member: 10952"] You notice there are a lot 'citation required' tags in that wiki article. So how credible are the sources used in that wiki article ? Also how signficant is a difference of '2' ie 100 & 98 on this Bioavailiability scale. Cpl of points here, if you're a vegetarian then i agree you want to use supplements, i'm not so beef & fish were defnitely on the menu that too on a daily basis, more the tuna in cans than beef tho. The other one is the the formula you used to arrive at the protein intake. I'm not familair with it and wonder how it compares with what i did when i was into this game. I set as target, the amt of calories to have and then worked a 60% carb, 30% protein and remainder as fat. As i upped the calorie intake, i made sure the others filled in and adjusted the diet based on this. This down to the bodytype i have, typical ectomorph, those ratios vary if you are meso or endo. Sure. Nope, my intention with that post was for someone building not fitness, i keep forgetting that fish & beef are off limits for you guys :( In that case your only opton is to take supplements. something to do with having 9 amino acid chains vs 7 (ie incomplete with veg proteins), can't remember the exact terminology, if you know your stuff then you would understand what i mean. No need as I was the one that called the ambulance when my friend got hit and he pretty much never fully recovered from it. He bought his eggs from a supermarket that did not refirgerate them and he stored them above the fridge, he'd been doing it that way for many years, it only took one bad egg to bring this mighty guy down. But the secret is eggs stored at 4 degrees C ie in a fridge do not allow salmonella to increase, refirgeration is vital or your playing the numbers. That's it even if you come across a bad egg that you don't catch you should be ok. My attitidue if you choose to call it that was questioning the validity of this bioavailability theory, and no its not been substantiated at all, you want to show me some more credible evidence go ahead. The personal hygene & health sectors are loaded with scams and flimsy claims, it's smart to be sceptical about anything in these areas. But my stance here is weakened considerably more by the fact that you guys are veg, that already cuts out a lot of availiable protein so i defnitely agree you have to supplement with protein powder. So you take whey or whatever is out there. I never bothered with it and also never heard others doing it unless it was much more specialised in the competing line again these guys were not veg. [/QUOTE]
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