Dell Ultrasharp 2208WFP

I've had this monitor for 2 days now, and since I chose to get a Dell by browsing comments on this forum I thought I'd post a few of my own.

Choosing the right Screen,

I, like everyone else on this forum, scoured the net for reivews of all the 20-22inch monitors I could find. I'd narrowed down my choices to the LG226wtq, the Dell E228wfp and the Ultrasharp 2007wfp. I managed to get a glimpse of the LG in action, and didn't like it at all. It looked to plasticky, and the picture quality was quite bad. It looked washed out, and the blacks looked pixelated. It may have been a combination of an analouge connection and a bad colour set-up, but I decided not to compensate for those and crossed it off my list.

It was then that I decided to get the 2007wfp. And then, as luck would have it, Dell decided to offer 2 new 22" monitors. Seeing that the 22" Ultrasharp had a pivotable, height adjustable stand, and supposedly better colours than the original 22 inch model, I decided that bigger is better and went for that instead.

The unveiling and initial impressions,

I recieved it at 7 in the evening, 8 days after I ordered it. It took me all of 15 minutes to pack away my old monitor and set this one up. At first the brightness blinded me, and the colours looked way off. The screen brightness was really uneven, and the colours would change everytime I tilted my head.
I was regretting having opted for the bigger instead of the better, but it was getting late and I decided to watch a movie instead of spending my time thinking about how silly I was not to have gone for the monitor with the better panel. I made a few quick colour adjustments, and put on a movie.
I was completely blown away! My old divX files looked absolutely amazing! The blacks were black, and details in the dark were clearly visible. The rest of the colours were vivid, and though they might have been overly saturated, it just added to my pleasure.

I went to bed that night, a happy man.The next morning, I fiddled around with the colours, and after finding that there wasn't much I could do from the monitors controls, I made a few adjustments from the nvidia control panel. What a world of difference that made! Granted colours aren't completely natural, but they're incredibly eye pleasing. And, I found that after a few hours of running, the monitors uneven brightness had improved considerably. And on turning up the brightness to 50%, it was almost completely gone.

The stand,

The stand it comes with is a God-send. My couch is lower than my monitor, so if I try to watch movies without lowering the monitor, the screen gets too dark. The pivot works well, even though the display adjustment isn't automatic. Adjusting the height and tilt is easy, and stepless. Swiveling the monitor on it's stand is also without any issues. The base is heavyish, and looks elegant and solid.

Color shifts,

The initial problem I had of the monitor changing colour everytime I moved my head had largely vanished. Theres still a fair amout of variation when I move around the room, but no longer when I am just sitting at my desk. Moving the monitor back a few inches, and adjusting the height has largely solved that problem.

Connectivity,

The USB ports on the side and the bottom are invisible, and the ports on the side are easily accessible.

In game performance ,

In games, the monitor performed really well. I couldn't discern any ghosting, even though I was playing deathmatches in UT2004. I've still to upgrade my graphics card, so that was one of the few games I had that I could play at native resolution with all the settings turned up. The game definately looks old, but it did alright for testing the monitor. There were no artifacts at all, but since theres no RTC on this panel, thats to be expected. I should try Doom3 to see how well dark scenes are rendered, and I'll post an update when I do that.

Text clarity,

Now, a part which most reviews don't cover. Text. It can be a problem. Some fonts just look terrible. I've turned on cleartype, and have played around with the sharpness settings of both, my monitor and my graphics card, and no matter what I do, some fonts just look horrible. Most of the fonts responded well when I turned cleartype on, and look nicer than they did on my CRT, but a few fonts weren't affected at all.

Another gripe I have is that the small web-page icons I have on my Opera taskbar look a little jagged and their colours seem unnatural.
I read quite a few ebooks, and the text output was worrying me. But I don't face the problem when using PDF files. Reading an ebook here, with 2 pages side by side will be a real step up for me, but I will have to turn down the brightness.

Menu and options,

The menu on the monitor isn't very user-friendly, and there are atleast 4 button presses that have to be made before you can start to do anything useful. Luckily, I can save colour profiles and activate them with 2 clicks of my mouse using the nvidia control panel.
Conclusion

All in all, I would have to say that this must be one of the nicest 22" panels out there. Mind you, I haven't had the chance to play around with dozens of LCD screens, but for it's price, I don't think theres anything in India which can match it. This is obviously the subjective opinion of a happy customer, and open to debate, but for the moment, I stand by my claim.

To sum up,

Pros:
  • Excellent performance in movies and games
  • Elegant looks
  • Looks and feels solid and well finished

Iffy:
  • Great colour rendering, vivid if not exactly natural.
  • A hint of uneven screen brightness.
  • The cable management could have been a little better. (I can see the cables under the monitor, I'd like them to be completely invisible.)

Cons:
  • Initial settings.
  • Non-user friendly menu.
  • Text does not look as good as it should. (I suspect that this is a problem of TN panels in general, and not just this model.)
  • Viewing angles. (Not as bad as I expected, but still far far from ideal)
 

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vpp84 said:
LOL...srsly u guys amuse me.. you reviews are good.. but are u using any technical knowledge? or just going for eye candy shit and and looks and not really bothered about its real value.. Buying dell LOL..surely it may be a good screens for you guys.. but as you said it SUX! big time.. i've seen dell LCDs.. my frnd works in Dell and i've seen and they know in and out of their crap screen products. As that guy said LG is not bad and all...DUDE get some tech knowledge and do the comparison.. you guys urself saynig that factory settings sux..no clear text and all crap.. LG much much much much better than what you guys are hyping about the DELL.. yes i do believe that LG could have done something more on the looks...mainly its stand nothing else is needed.. BUT IT REALLY DOESNT MATTER if you gonna mount it on a wall :) so wake up..

could you tell me why the hell you are posting only about LG everywhere in the forum :S
 
vpp84 said:
LOL...srsly u guys amuse me.. you reviews are good.. but are u using any technical knowledge? or just going for eye candy shit and and looks and not really bothered about its real value.. Buying dell LOL..surely it may be a good screens for you guys.. but as you said it SUX! big time.. i've seen dell LCDs.. my frnd works in Dell and i've seen and they know in and out of their crap screen products. As that guy said LG is not bad and all...DUDE get some tech knowledge and do the comparison.. you guys urself saynig that factory settings sux..no clear text and all crap.. LG much much much much better than what you guys are hyping about the DELL.. yes i do believe that LG could have done something more on the looks...mainly its stand nothing else is needed.. BUT IT REALLY DOESNT MATTER if you gonna mount it on a wall :) so wake up..

Just because I did not choose to list the technical specs does not mean I was unaware of them for this monitor, or any other ones. Technical specs on paper are one thing, and how well they're implemented are another.
Also, one buys an entire package, not just the panel. The way it looks, the quality of it's stand and the included accesories do make a difference. And theres also the fact that Dell is reputed to honour it's warranty in a timely, troublefree way that stands in it's favour.
The LG you're speaking about is known to throw up a huge number of RTC errors unless you get a recently made panel. The panel I saw in Croma was made before August, so I wasn't sure if it was free of the documented problem. At Croma, where the LG comes for Rs.12,990 (an offer which I think is over) they insisted the monitor came with a 1 year warranty. Maybe the salesperson who told me this was ill-informed, but those are not exactly reassuring words. Also, since it comes, as far as I know, without a DVI cable in the box, and a flimsy stand, adding the cost of those two items to the package would take the cost up by atleast another two thousand rupees. At that price one could get the Samsung 226bw, which is supposed to be the best 22" TN panel around, regardless of the panel lottery. So, opting for the LG made no sense to me. I would have gone for the Samsung, but since I could get something I could be happy with, for a cheaper price, and no effort on my behalf other than writing 4 short emails, answering 1 phone call, and opening the door to the delivery person, I decided to go for the Dell. Granted it was a gamble as there is a decided lack of feedback on this particular panel online, but so far, it's been a gamble thats paid off.
 
^ Dude, dont waste your time on such replies. The guy seems to believe in "Technical specs" i.e contrast ratio of 5000:1 and response time of 2ms. His thinking is, compared to specs Dells are supposed to be shi3t :bleh:

Ive heard that LG makes a good gaming monitor. But it doesnt mean everyone should get an LG regardless of their needs. For me the overall package offered by Dell was a steal compared to any other buy.

OT: Looking at the guys rep, how does one give something like -ve rep??
 
random2 said:
^ Dude, dont waste your time on such replies. The guy seems to believe in "Technical specs" i.e contrast ratio of 5000:1 and response time of 2ms. His thinking is, compared to specs Dells are supposed to be shi3t :bleh:

Ive heard that LG makes a good gaming monitor. But it doesnt mean everyone should get an LG regardless of their needs. For me the overall package offered by Dell was a steal compared to any other buy.

OT: Looking at the guys rep, how does one give something like -ve rep??

That option has been disabled by the admins for members. But Staff Members can give -ve rep :p
 
This monitor is very good as far as my experience goes , also checked for back light bleeding but it is very less and only at bottom edge of screen . No ghosting experienced in most games , picture quality is very nice . If i sit too close to monitor then i can notice that screen edges are little les brighter ( viewing angle ) but if kept at proper distance then that is not a problem . I guess this should be same with most 22" TN panels .
 
hi jamdevil

could u mention the price and the procedure to get the monitor at that price..do u know of any new egg agents in india who can supply items to me..thanks..rawlinsons
 
member4803 said:
I ordered mine directly from dell today for Rs.14,800 including shipping and all charges. Will post my comments once I receive the monitor.

where did u get it from..do u know of anyone who would supply it to me in India at almost the same price...
 
^^ I guess thats the price with dell india . You can call on their toll free number and bargain yourself . There's alsoa GO thread in this forum , i got mine from this go at 14.5k including everything .
 
rawlinsons said:
where did u get it from..do u know of anyone who would supply it to me in India at almost the same price...

Call the Dell toll free number or If you are in Bangalore then call Shubha - 08025068675. They will first send you a Quotation to your E-Mail address, and if you are Ok with it, you have to sign on the Quotation and send it to them (scan and e-mail). They take credit card payment also. Mine came on Friday, ordered on Monday (5 Days) :)

Everything looks fine, except the Text in the monitor. It is like very thin. Tried changing the sharpness, Colors, Brightness but no use. Any one have any other way to correct it.
 
I just bought the Dell Ultrasharp 2208WFP. What settings did you change to achieve the best picture, color, contrast and ect? I'm curious because I am messing with the settings to see how much I can improve, but since you have had your monitor for a while you would probably have the better idea on the ideal settings.
 
brightness:45
contrast:70
red:79
green:79
blue:80

then i tweaked it from the nvidia control panel...i'd post the profiles here, but i can't find them..or an option to export them
 
^^Well Ultrasharp 24incher is highly priced and a separate thread has started with ppl reporting complaints abt the E248WFP model..

More real estate means u need a better card to run a game @ full res.. :)
 
erm, its not about the E248, its about the ultrasharp 2408 model, which i see you have figured out in that thread :)

i am getting an E248WFP soon, so far a few people on this forum seem to be okay with it...

edit: plus, the E248 has been around longer (at least 6 months) and no horror stories posted so far, so hopes are looking good :)
 
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