4 gb Ram help

[Hardware_freak]

Hi,
I am currently having 2gb of ram & i want to know wht will happen if in install more 2gb i.e total of 4gb ram.

1.will my 32 bit vista detect it.
2.if it detect around 3gb then does that mean the rest of ram is waste.
3.is there any way i can make it recognize my 4gb ram.

 

[MAGNeT]

on vista 32 bit i dont guess u can detect 4gb......

its all about addressing.....

3gb only reaches the limit of 32bit....

 

[Hardware_freak]

so 1gb is wasted right?

 

[Choto Cheeta]

Vista 32bit can Detect 4GB without problem, i think with PAE switch u can make a 32bit one detect even more ram, Even Windows 2000 can do it (upto 32GB RAM i guess), then i guss why not Vista off course u need a x64 processor installed

Read more on PAE, Memory Support and Windows Operating Systems

and here, Operating Systems and PAE Support

hope this helps

 

[nukeu666]

all 32bit OSs can support upto 4gb ram

 

[Choto Cheeta]

all 32bit OSs can support upto 4gb ram

please refer to my post above, u can make a 32bit OS (Server OS i guss) work with even 32GB RAM with PAE switch or rather with Physical Address Extension

Read more here, Physical Address Extension - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and here, Physical Address Extension - PAE Memory and Windows

Then again u always have the 64bit OS option

 

[Chaos]

32bit Windows will detect 4GB assuming u have the memory hole/MMIO or a similar option enabled in the bios. However a single app can max access 3GB. You'd have to specify the /3GB switch in the bootloader.

 

[SharekhaN]

Yea providing if you dont have a GFX card or a sound card seperately . or else you will see only 3 Gb of addressable ram .

 

[Hardware_freak]

Well i am having 7900GT GPU so i will see only 3gb of ram

 

[SharekhaN]

^^ that is correct .
The processor only has 32 address lines, limiting it to an addressing map of 4 gigabytes.

The chipset, PCI devices, PCI express region, and video cards use some of this map, and the BIOS correctly reports this range as unavailable to the operating system. If the user installs 4 GB of physical memory, then the processor has no way to address the memory that overlaps with these regions, already in use. The chipset directs memory access to the appropriate device rather than sending it to random access memory (RAM).

PCI express uses 500 megabytes (MB) in the map; integrated video takes 256 MB right below PCI express, leaving 3.25 GB of memory available to the operating system via RAM. In some cases, less RAM is available depending on what other add-in cards are installed.

For more info :
Comparison of 32-bit and 64-bit memory architecture for 64-bit editions of Windows XP and Windows Server 2003

 

[Deepak]

^^ Studied Microprocessor Architecture have you

and what he said is pretty much true, this limitation is removed in x64 with upto 64TB of memory mapping possible IIRC (will have to check, its a large no, I think 40 bits are available, not sure)

 

[Kumar]

Nonetheless a very good post by SharekhaN!

 

[Hardware_freak]

Well but i am having a 64bit processor, so it has more address lines.

btw

1.can i install vista 32bit & 64bit together.

2.can i run 32bit application on vista 64 bit.

3.is vista 64bit faster than 32bit.

 

[Deepak]

1.can i install vista 32bit & 64bit together.

YES, on seperate partitions

2.can i run 32bit application on vista 64 bit.

Yep

3.is vista 64bit faster than 32bit.

thats something one judges for itself, but Vista 64 doesnt have great driver support as of yet, and that could be the problem

For eg : check this out

Troubleshooting Vista x64 Installations Over 4 Different Systems

 

[Hardware_freak]

Well Thanks guys for helping me

I think i will first buy more ram & then if it detects then it's good otherwise i will install both 32 & 64 bit os.

 

[abbY]

pls read this before u proceed

Link <<Vista 64-bit won't boot with 4 GB RAM installed - VR-Zone IT & Lifestyle Forum!

 

[Deepak]

abhishek, thats a board problem, read below too, many people are working with more then 4gigs of RAM there

 

[Anish]

^ Lol, I booted comfortably into Vista 64 with 4GB of RAM (not mine though), mines on the way hyeah: