abhaybhegde
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: noobalert : Guys , i am new to this football thing.... never played it . Which is the best one to start off with ?
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Fifa 11 and PES 2011 Review (PC)
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Aman27deep
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Its not yet launched in India (I think) and if it does it'll cost over Rs. 2,200. You're better off buying him FIFA 11 and he'll thank you for that, lol.vijayshimla said:
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FIFA 11 is 900 Shipped on Intencity, sweet price
Intencity - Fifa 11 [pc]
Two things i didn't like in PES 2011 are the dribbling which is incredibly cumbersome and the power in passes and shots, its like the players have a cannon attached to their feet.
Only thing that is better in PES compared to FIFA 11 is the crossing, however PES still has the feel of having more freedom to score a variety of goals.
get it from shopto.net , doubt its available in India
Only thing that is better in PES compared to FIFA 11 is the crossing, however PES still has the feel of having more freedom to score a variety of goals.
vijayshimla said:
get it from shopto.net , doubt its available in India
From a simulation point of view FIFA is prehistoric compared to PES, for people who watch a LOT of football know how the players are in real life what they tend to do better , which foot , all sorts of attributes PES actually tries to make this happen , FIFA doesnt do any of this. All that about individualism etc was typical marketing hype after playing it its the same thing.
FIFA = NFS 2 (you can take many turns without even braking)
PES = GRID
I have tried both games and I really liked FIFA09 a lot when it came out but really after a while its too easy and the challenge of PES calls you back. Put simply you want to just pick up a controller and play then your game is FIFA , you like football like a nutter and you want a challenge, the games PES its been like that ever since the first PES and will remain the same as long as EA spend more on advertising hype than making a game engine like PES.
Im not knocking FIFA, its a game but if more realistic gameplay makes better driving games than PES is clearly the better game.
FIFA = NFS 2 (you can take many turns without even braking)
PES = GRID
I have tried both games and I really liked FIFA09 a lot when it came out but really after a while its too easy and the challenge of PES calls you back. Put simply you want to just pick up a controller and play then your game is FIFA , you like football like a nutter and you want a challenge, the games PES its been like that ever since the first PES and will remain the same as long as EA spend more on advertising hype than making a game engine like PES.
Im not knocking FIFA, its a game but if more realistic gameplay makes better driving games than PES is clearly the better game.
That would be true if you were talking about PES 5, but the last few years PES has increased difficulty not by improving the AI when the difficulty level is increased but by boosting the stats of the opposing teams players. This year I am playing as Tottenham in the Master league and I find it frustrating when Aaron lennon can't outrun old farts like Stephen Carr or Salgado under any circumstance, Titus Bramble starts playing like BEckenbauer and Nzogbia transforms into Ronaldo on Top Player level. PES just creates a false feeling of challenge when infact most of the AI defending is not intelligent at all, AI postioning is bad everytime they are just able to recover well because of artificially boosted stats.Zloyd said:
Also most players have the turning circle of a truck and take a lot of time to accelerate to a decent speed, so the feel of the game is too heavy and sluggish. The only saving grace is the passing/crossing and shooting.
Fifa is at the opposite end of the spectrum because it is sometimes too easy to dribble and players turn on a dime but the AI positioning/general awareness is a lot better than PES. Neither FIFA nor PES are realistic representations of football. A mixture of the best parts of FIFA and PES would make a very good football game.
edge111hussain
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After a 4 day gaming marathon, id have to say without a shadow of doubt, that the PES gameplay rules. Also attributing to the fact is that there is a sense of repetition in Fifa. For eg in fifa, every junior plays a wide fwd finger and keeps playing through balls to him, aka messi.. I have played game after game blocking the wide player and counter attacking. In pes, its not so easy to pull of moves, it comes down to the skill of each player and the players positioning.
I complete agree with Zloyd, FIFA initially looked better, but over a period of time the lure just fizzed off whilst PES keeps making me come back for more..
Anyways, if by some patch pes can get the pes 10 camera back, im going PES this yr too/////////////
I complete agree with Zloyd, FIFA initially looked better, but over a period of time the lure just fizzed off whilst PES keeps making me come back for more..
Anyways, if by some patch pes can get the pes 10 camera back, im going PES this yr too/////////////
Gamenome I completely agree with you man , ive said it before but PES has its faults , and some are really really irritating especially the defender AI and player switching which drives me nuts at times when im trying to select a particular defender.
PES5 or 6 not sure which one it was but on the PS2 was the absolute best , it had such nice feel , long shots were a joy to get right and there were so many good things about that version that me and my friends played a lot of it in 2008 when we got a PS2 to kill time with. After playing that and PES2009 of that time jeez PES2009/2010 felt like such crap , speed was so overated , ppl just shouldering past defenders , it wasnt a game I enjoyed too much.
They have fixed some of that with this version , the shoulder barging past defender isnt happening , ronaldo messi and other fast players cant just run around ppl THAT easily , it takes a defensive mistake or ideal situation etc its not as simple as it was last few versions where once you get the hang of it nothing short of a 85 rating defender is catching and stopping some of the really good players. Ofcourse this current version could turn out like that only we are just new to it and still figuring out the timing of the dribbles etc.
I used to find through balls in PES an absolute pain and infact it still is , its cause it requires a timing , in fifa just tap the button and poof through ball your winger is stretching the defense and the opponent is at your mercy, it gets boring after a while when anyone and everyone on the team can play near perfect through balls all the time. Also FIFA players showed me a weird shot from out side the D , they que it up do a half circle or something with the right stick and ball swerves like mad and wee nice goal but not realistic and from certain areas good players pull it off all the time.
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PES5 or 6 not sure which one it was but on the PS2 was the absolute best , it had such nice feel , long shots were a joy to get right and there were so many good things about that version that me and my friends played a lot of it in 2008 when we got a PS2 to kill time with. After playing that and PES2009 of that time jeez PES2009/2010 felt like such crap , speed was so overated , ppl just shouldering past defenders , it wasnt a game I enjoyed too much.
They have fixed some of that with this version , the shoulder barging past defender isnt happening , ronaldo messi and other fast players cant just run around ppl THAT easily , it takes a defensive mistake or ideal situation etc its not as simple as it was last few versions where once you get the hang of it nothing short of a 85 rating defender is catching and stopping some of the really good players. Ofcourse this current version could turn out like that only we are just new to it and still figuring out the timing of the dribbles etc.
I used to find through balls in PES an absolute pain and infact it still is , its cause it requires a timing , in fifa just tap the button and poof through ball your winger is stretching the defense and the opponent is at your mercy, it gets boring after a while when anyone and everyone on the team can play near perfect through balls all the time. Also FIFA players showed me a weird shot from out side the D , they que it up do a half circle or something with the right stick and ball swerves like mad and wee nice goal but not realistic and from certain areas good players pull it off all the time.
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Aman27deep
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PES 10
FIFA 10
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PES 11
FIFA 11
Table has turned, some of you will not understand it though.
FIFA 10
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PES 11
FIFA 11
Table has turned, some of you will not understand it though.
edge111hussain
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^^^
V do understand it, but imagine u playing online, and game after game the only thing the opponent does it plays through balls down the wing with messi or anelka or ronaldo to receive em and they run past ur lb or rb with gr8 ease. The pass never misses and the wingers are never around to catch em.
Its become so monotonous that i permanently keep my SW back to make sure i can counter these endless through balls.
V do understand it, but imagine u playing online, and game after game the only thing the opponent does it plays through balls down the wing with messi or anelka or ronaldo to receive em and they run past ur lb or rb with gr8 ease. The pass never misses and the wingers are never around to catch em.
Its become so monotonous that i permanently keep my SW back to make sure i can counter these endless through balls.
Tell me something what is the diff in mechanics between fifa10 and 11 , it feels like the same thing.
Aman like you most of my friends prefer fifa over pes for the same reason , the passing is simpler and what you imagine in your head is easier to do and thats cool , just for me PES is nicer , the timing of the dribbles are harder and when it comes of , when you get messi to skip past a few players and dart into some space or xavi takes a nice turn and you pop a sweet pass , or you land a cracker with van persie's left foot thats what brings me back to pes the ability to mimic the players real game play style the satisfaction is immense.
Its a game at the end of the day, play what you enjoy more and give other games a chance so you dont get tunnel vision.
Aman like you most of my friends prefer fifa over pes for the same reason , the passing is simpler and what you imagine in your head is easier to do and thats cool , just for me PES is nicer , the timing of the dribbles are harder and when it comes of , when you get messi to skip past a few players and dart into some space or xavi takes a nice turn and you pop a sweet pass , or you land a cracker with van persie's left foot thats what brings me back to pes the ability to mimic the players real game play style the satisfaction is immense.
Its a game at the end of the day, play what you enjoy more and give other games a chance so you dont get tunnel vision.
Aman27deep
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Won't say no more mate, outta this thread now ^^Zloyd said:
channabasanna
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Hey all, want to know where we get the PC version of PES 2011. It is not available in Intencity, wanted to buy it a soon as i saw its price as 500 in the Times Crest edition (bangalore) of last saturday. In the Times Crest he had given a full page reviews and comparisions for FIFA 11 and PES 2011. Any link (EBAY India) or details where i can get it in Bangalore would be helpful.