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The Piercing Star and Black holes

At-Tariq The Knocking Star - Pulsar - YouTube

it would be good for me to talk about this thread because ohh well i pray

and all but in my mind its very hard for me to believe in the other side

or the spiritual round despite all the hard tests i have undergo in my life

i always think everything we know is man made but this one was

a big shock to me i didnt even know there is a little rock in the center

of black holes .

haw did that guy knew 2000 years ago . alone in the desert dosnt even

know haw to read or write .
 
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Sorry, but I dont understand what exactly do you want to discuss about? Black Holes? Pulsars?

Please don't be ambiguous while creating threads, give them a proper title.
 
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all words in old verses can be manipulated to fit what we know now
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i hate it when science is mixed up with any religion and the authors manipulate anything and everything they fancy to fit into their scheme of things. i hate it even more when people believe these authors.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=Ss-fuY3hTO8

i just saw this on bbc channel and the verses is the same no one changed it the book is the same from 2000 years .

we have old editions of it ,

am not trying to convince anyone i just wanted to talk about haw near the old verses is to be matched with the black holes

some say the verses is not the same as the old book is .

i dont want to argue against any opinion . if you dont believe that the verses is old as the book is and was not changed

then it stops here .

if u believe its old haw close do you think it is to the discovery of black holes ? is it just a work of word matching to different things ?

or the description is way too clear ? if it was haw it was made without a machine ?

one thing also to notice in that script haw it says , the knocker and haw would you know about the knocker

if referees over there that this particular verses was beyond the people knowledge at that time so they where

advised to leave it .
 
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the real mystery in this thread is whether or not you are using google translate.
 
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why what did i do wrong ? i checked the spelling correctly , u need an English language professor to understand such

short simple a thread ?
 
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yeah... i see where this is heading and it's a future littered with deleted posts and closed threads. this is not youtube my dear fellow.
 
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ok so maybe you try to explain what a "scientific miracle" is, other than an oxymoron that is.
 
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i came here to ask not to convince or explain i just saw the program on bbc why u do u think am a religious

person or that am trying to make a religious post on techenclave ?

just say what u think about it that is all i asked for . never mean to make u unhappy

i never said a miracle the thing exist and the guy described it 2000 years ago from a cave . he didnt talk about

flying elephants

do u see these ancient words as precise as the scientific issue is ? or u see them more like word matching trick?

if u think they are modded or added later then that is also a way .
 
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id1x said:
i came here to ask not to convince or explain i just saw the program on bbc why u do u think am a religious

person or that am trying to make a religious post on techenclave ?
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beacuse all the links you have posted are explicitly trying to establish a link between the verses in the quran and current science.

id1x said:
just say what u think about it that is all i asked for . never mean to make u unhappy
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the opposite of being unhappy i am quite entertained by this thread... after all i am multi-quoting you despite the fact that i loathe people who multi-quote posts.

id1x said:
i never said a miracle the thing exist and the guy described it 2000 years ago from a cave . he didnt talk about

flying elephants

do u see these ancient words as precise as the scientific issue is ? or u see them more like word matching trick?

if u think they are modded or added later then that is also a way .
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I've never read the quran or the hadith but you are asking from me an explanation while contending that you are not here to "convince or explain"? besides, all i have to go with is the video and the links you posted and its title itself contains the term "scientific miracles" and if i can't even wrap my head around the title then why should I bother to delve any deeper into the content?
 
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instead of analyzing my personality or explain the verses just tell me ure opinion on it

i did not make the videos i just watched them and i have no reason to convince u

its not such a complex request neither an argue i did not oppose ure opinion i just explained my self
 
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chiron said:
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i mean to explain my self not the verses . when you gonna stop hunting me ?

the title is the same its a discussion about what do you think about this verses ? the goal is i like to know it .

maybe in the videos they called it a miracle but i did not .. a miracle is to see a train walking on water ok?

to me miracles are things that are physic impossible ..

there no miracle here because black hole are real , and the versus is real we are not looking at

a demon face in the dark u tube kinda videos .

the question remain if you believe that the guy said that versus in a dark cave 2000 years ago

and if you think or think that description of the verses to the pulsar is way to clear and not word matching .

the question would be is haw this could be ?

is it alines ? or older human civilization ? or spirit maybe ?
 
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