Although the general perception around here often seems to be that macbook/iphone/ipad whatever are overpriced - catch is that would make pretty much every premium laptop or android overpriced too
I mean you gotta admit those memory/storage upgrades and base model prices are bullshit
, like most peeps dont even realize that it costs Apple just about the same if not outright cheaper for memory in those unified chips as they would have for the memory upgrades if they went with the traditional RAM and CPU separate model (
this is a good thread for explanation)
Which brings me back to what triggered this originally. What software restriction , if any have you faced on Mac os?
I could in fact counter-argue that windows is more restrictive in comparison
Would love to hear about this honestly, is there any usecase where you felt Linux/MacOS was better aside from the general open source and ease of use when installing packages? but for me, its not about how restrictive Mac is (iPhone def is), its how restrictive their hardware is,
Arent you assuming two things in a bollywood 80s movie Black/White vein viz:
- Customers are idiots
they are not idiots (well, some definitely are), they just dont give a **** until its too late and its a precedent in the market/monopoly .
- Corporations are outright evil
Evil in the comic sense? no, but they definitely are scum, I don't know what's so hard about admitting that, like you do realize that be it HP/Apple or any OEM which locks you behind their bullshit, once anything goes wrong, its just e-waste which would otherwise have been a perfectly usable device?
In the example of proprietary ink that you quoted, there are two facets that you are disregarding:
1) locked inkjets are disproportionately cheap for the customer
Proprietary Ink model was adopted to create units that could be sold at cost or even at loss.
That makes it a positive proposition for households that print infrequently as many such households are ok with a high variable cost per print.. but not OK with a upfront high cost
(Inkjets are oft available for 2.2 -2.5K excl GST. Once you factor in channel costs, shipping & duty , the proceeds for manufacturer would be to the tune of <1000 INR. Inkjets are complex mechanical devices and the only way they sell so cheap is because of proprietary ink)
yeah and this for me is a predatory practice, unfortunately most consumers dont really check out the caveats that comes with it, and its not like the HP is really that cheap, they mostly cost around the same, I can send you as many threads as you want about it (
this describes most of my beef with HP),
Barring outright monopolies or oligopolies, I think you will find it hard, if not impossible to find examples of a company being able to get away with what you are assuming to be the norm
I dont know about you but if I cancel a subscription and my ink gets locked or if I update my firmware/software and the printer refuses to work with my ink, I'mma call it bullshit no matter how you package it
No, it is not that simple. Unified memory is not just same memory for CPU and GPU. From I remember, in a Mac
Yeah, agreed they are on the same chip but thats it, there's no advantage as such unless you count the reduced distance between the SOC and the SSD which might have a little bit of difference, Last I checked any decent gen 4 SSD can beat M3's speeds from what I read.
- SSD and memory controllers are on the SoC.
- Memory is on the SoC, right next to the CPU and GPU cores.
- SSD and SoC are connected via high bandwidth channels.
- As SSD can deliver data instantaneously, OS need not keep large amount of data in memory. This is why Apple says that 8GB on Mac is like 16GB on PC (I do hate 8GB Macs that are sold for 1L or more).
Does it help in real world performance? It did work really well when Apple started migration to M1. Application load time, compilation and rendering was so much more faster. Apple Mx chips showed clear difference in speeds 'in real world usage'. It's a win either way for users.
That's more because of the Arm arch and not because SSD was soldered to the board but I think we got it mixed up, I can't really offer you an apples-to-apples comparison for this.
Those who won't need lot of power will get really long battery life and the laptop can be ridiculously thin and lightweight. Those who want lot of power will get that power and it will not be at the cost of battery life. Those who want extraordinary amount of power can still go with Wintels but those laptops need like 300W or more power to operate at that level and battery won't even last an hour.
yeah agreed, my point is not dissing on mac hardware, I'll happily admit that they have the best hardware on the laptop market, my point is their anti-consumer practices and increasing bullshit does not justify the pros they bring but thats just me, I'll take a 8-9 hour battery backup laptop with same weight/size/form factor over a potential glorified paperweight because a company decided to say **** you to its consumers
Coming back to unified memory. Usually, RISC needs more memory to operate as it can only load one instruction per execution. As memory needs to be loaded more number of times, I believe Apple came up with this idea of unified memory architecture and ways to reduce time taken to load data to memory from SSD and then from memory to CPU cores. This is just my thought.
yeah, unified memory has its benefits, now will they be apparent in most day-to-day usage if you are not a video content editor or a gamer? Nah, atleast for now, even conventional hardware can more than keep up with unified memory, its mostly useful, if you want to load/stuff a lot of stuff quickly. it just cuts out the middle man in between, thus leading to faster loading times, essentially what you said but limited to some very few usecases in daily usage.
Also relevant
Louis Rossman video where he shows how a simply NAND short can **** up your entire mac.
essentially, 12-15 hours of backup? really decent ngl, it all depends on the pricing though for me personally