Help: Buying a new pc with best configuration in my budget

samiryadav

samiryadav

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Hello friends,

i am looking for best possible configuration under my budget.

i am from lucknow.and cost of components here are 5-10 %+ of the price in Delhi(because of VAT)

i dont want to spend much on Cabinet .

is there any need of good SMPS?

Q: What is your budget?

35K

Q: What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)

CPU - Intel P4 2.80E GHz WITH HT

Motherboard - INTEL 865GBF

GPU - XFX NVIDIA 6200LE

RAM - 3GB (2*1 GB (HYNIX)(SIMMTRONICS) + 2*512 MB(HYNIX)(SIMMTRONICS))(DUAL CHANNEL MODE)

Monitor -LG E700S FLATRON CRT

SMPS - I BALL 450W

HDD:- 80GB SAMSUNG PATA + 250 GB SEAGATE SATA + 500 GB SEAGATE SATA

OPTICAL DRIVE - SAMSUNG 24X DVD WRITER + HP 1315 DVD WRITER 24X



Q: Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)

WANT TO SELL THE WHOLE PC ,KINDLY TELL THE AMOUNT IN WHICH I CAN SELL IT.

Q: Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.



CPU - Intel I5-2400

Motherboard - INTEL DH67BL

GPU ------

MONITOR- DELL U2311H

HDD- 1 TB APPROX (1000GB) SEAGATE BARCUDDA 7200.12 6Gb/s

RAM- 2*2 GB CORSAIR DDR3 1333MHz/ G.SKILL RIPJAW 1333MHz DDR3 2*2GB KIT



CABINET- I BALL (SIMPLE)

SMPS- CONFUSED. :(

KEYBOARD + MOUSE :- COMBO LOGITECH OR I KEY

SPEAKERS-------------

OPTICAL DRIVE- SAMSUNG 24X DVD WRITER



Q: Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component

Yes, will upgrade the following within 6 months

WORKSTATION CLASS GRAPHIC CARD FOR MODERATE 3D MODELING.

(MAY BE SOME QUADRO CARD FROM NVIDIA)

Q: Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)

LUCKNOW/DELHI

Open to online purchase.---YES

Q: Would you consider buying a second hand hardware from the TE market

No.

Q: What is your intended use for this PC/hardware



Browsing

Desktop Processing

Download rig, 10x7 operation

Watching HD movies.

Basic CAD work.not including assembly designing.

Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.

NO.

Do not want to buy Asus product as I heard the after sales service in India is pathetic

dont know

Q: If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?

IGI,NFS etc (rarely play games)



Q: What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage

Full HD (1980*1080)

Q: Are you looking to overclock?

No

Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?

Windows 7 64 bit

WINDOWS XP 64- Bit

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ype Model Price Qty.

Motherboard Intel DH67BL Rs. 5900 x1

Processor Intel LGA 1155 i5 - 2400 Rs. 9500 x1

PC Chassis Zebronics Bijli Rs. 1100 x1

Monitor DELL U2311H [23 Wide IPS] Rs. 13800 x1

Ram Corsair Single [VS2GB1333D3 Value 2GB DDR3] Rs. 1050 x2

Internal Storage Seagate Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA [1 TB - 7200 RPM] Rs. 2700 x1

KM Combo Logitech Internet Pro Desktop [USB] Rs. 700 x1

Total Rs. 35,800
 
Yup looks good :) Though opt for 4GB RAM.

Only possible change is MSI H67MA-E35 ~ 5.2k-5.5k instead of the Intel. But it has only 2 RAM slots so you need go 4GB straight away.
 
thanks for replying darkangel.i got 2 questions for you .please help ..

I am getting 2*2gb for dual channel configuration.(the board has 4 slots)(2 left for future upgrade).

should i get 4gb?

and should i get a good SMPS? (like coolermaster etc) or a simple SMPS will work good?
 
DarkAngel said:
Yup looks good :) Though opt for 4GB RAM.

Only possible change is MSI H67MA-E35 ~ 5.2k-5.5k instead of the Intel. But it has only 2 RAM slots so you need go 4GB straight away.
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He wants to run the RAM in dual channel mode, so either that MSI board or 8GB RAM is not necessary for him since he is not gonna do gaming..

samiryadav said:
thanks for replying darkangel.i got 2 questions for you .please help ..

I am getting 2*2gb for dual channel configuration.(the board has 4 slots)(2 left for future upgrade).

should i get 4gb?

and should i get a good SMPS? (like coolermaster etc) or a simple SMPS will work good?
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If you want to run the RAM in dual channel mode then 2*2GB is perfect..

BTW you have mentioned that you might be adding quadro GPU.. So a good PSU is definitely a necessity..

I would suggest VX series of PSU from Corsair.. :)
 
Hello friends i need help again.

i want to add a graphic card in my system.kindly tell me which is the best graphic card in 5000 rupees.

thanks in advance.
 
thanks for replying

Any specific model will help a lot.
also mention some nvidia graphic cards in that range.
if i increase my budget to 7000 rupees ,then what are the possible ATI and Nvidia graphic gards which will perform best on below configuration.

Processor-intel i5-2500k
Motherboard:- Intel DP67BG-B3 (extreme series P67 Chipset motherboard)
Ram:-corsair vengence / g.skill trident (CL8) (2*2 GB Dual channel kit)
1 TB Seagate Barcudda 7200.12 (sata3)
500W -local/corsair builder series 500 W /coolermaster extreme power plus 500W

thanks in advance.
 
samiryadav said:
thanks for replying

Any specific model will help a lot.
also mention some nvidia graphic cards in that range.

if i increase my budget to 7000 rupees ,then what are the possible ATI and Nvidia graphic gards which will perform best on below configuration.

Processor-intel i5-2500k
Motherboard:- Intel DP67BG-B3 (extreme series P67 Chipset motherboard)
Ram:-corsair vengence / g.skill trident (CL8) (2*2 GB Dual channel kit)
1 TB Seagate Barcudda 7200.12 (sata3)
500W -local/corsair builder series 500 W /coolermaster extreme power plus 500W
thanks in advance.
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Why do you want 2500K and P67 when you dont want to Overclock it? Pure waste of money IMHO.
Even though the Corsair CX400 ~ 2.4k might sound inferior to CX430 or CX500 it infact has better interiors and has longer warranty (3 yrs vs 2 yrs of CX430 or CX500)
From Nvidia go for the MSI GTS450 1GB GDDR5 ~ 6.7k. Anything less that from Nvidia doesnt cut it IMO.

Type Model Price Qty.
Processor Intel LGA 1155 i5 - 2400 Rs. 9700 x1
Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Rs. 5600 x1
Ram Corsair Single [VS2GB1333D3 Value 2GB DDR3] Rs. 1050 x2
GPU MSI Nvidia GTS450 1GB GDDR5/MSI ATI HD5770 1GB GDDR5 Rs. 6800 x1
Internal Storage Seagate 7200.12 SATA [1 TB - 7200 RPM] Rs. 2700 x1
Monitor DELL U2311H [23 Wide IPS] Rs. 14000 x1
PC Chassis Zebronics Bijli Rs. 1100 x1
SMPS Corsair CX400 Rs. 2500 x1
KM Combo Logitech Internet Pro Desktop [USB] Rs. 700 x1
Total Rs. 45,200
 
@ Dark Angel thanks for your such a nice response.

absolutely correct that i will not overclock right now and it seems that i am wasting money(its my fault that i didn't mentioned that i will like to over clock after 6 months).

But after 6 months when i will start using CAD softwares (Like CATIA,autocad ,PRO-E etc) and few good games,then i will definitely like to overclock.

so i am going for P67 chipset and Core i5-2500k considering some future possibilities as i will not upgrade this system in future.

Why i made this choice?

i made this choice because:-

1.

i got HP dv6-3050tx laptop.it is a core i7-720qm with ATi mobility radeon 5650.

when i run AutoCAD 2010 on it , it shows some lag in sketching while the CPU accelerates from 1.6ghz to 2.66ghz.and the mouse feels to stuck;say for a moment.

i am not sure if it is because of Graphic card or processor.according to me when i disabled all the effects like smooth display etc in AutoCAD which are graphic card driven,even then it shows lag.when keeping an eye on turbo boost monitor the lag removes as soon as the processor reaches 2.66Ghz.may be it is because of low base frequency of processor.

correct me if i am wrong.



2.i will never upgrade this rig.i will buy a new one if i ever feel like i need something more(rare possibility except the graphic card for CAD works ).

3. adding around rs 6850(1950 on processor + 5000 on motherboard) is giving me a high end configuration (IMO for me).i can go for dell LED instead of IPS and cover this up or else i will spend 7000 more and will get all of it.

i am always open to suggestions.correct me where ever i am wrong.and suggest best for me.

thanks

samir yadav

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@ Dark Angel thanks for your such a nice response.
absolutely correct that i will not overclock right now and it seems that i am wasting money(its my fault that i didn't mentioned that i will like to over clock after 6 months).
But after 6 months when i will start using CAD softwares (Like CATIA,autocad ,PRO-E etc) and few good games,then i will definitely like to overclock.
so i am going for P67 chipset and Core i5-2500k considering some future possibilities as i will not upgrade this system in future.

Why i made this choice?

i made this choice because:-
1.
i got HP dv6-3050tx laptop.it is a core i7-720qm with ATi mobility radeon 5650.
when i run AutoCAD 2010 on it , it shows some lag in sketching while the CPU accelerates from 1.6ghz to 2.66ghz.and the mouse feels to stuck;say for a moment.
i am not sure if it is because of Graphic card or processor.according to me when i disabled all the effects like smooth display etc in AutoCAD which are graphic card driven,even then it shows lag.when keeping an eye on turbo boost monitor the lag removes as soon as the processor reaches 2.66Ghz.may be it is because of low base frequency of processor.

correct me if i am wrong.


2.i will never upgrade this rig.i will buy a new one if i ever feel like i need something more(rare possibility except the graphic card for CAD works ).
3. adding around rs 6850(1950 on processor + 5000 on motherboard) is giving me a high end configuration (IMO for me).i can go for dell LED instead of IPS and cover this up or else i will spend 7000 more and will get all of it.
i am always open to suggestions.correct me where ever i am wrong.and suggest best for me.
thanks
samir yadav
 
There is no comparision between the older i7 720 QM and the Sandy Bridge.

Intel's new quad core Sandy Bridge CPU line up brings a huge performance gain compared to the existing Clarksfield CPUs. Comparing the i7-2720QM CPU to the i7-740QM we observe an outstanding plus of 56.5% on average.
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Review Intel Sandy Bridge Quad-Core processors - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

Check the above review. The 2720QM is clocked @2.2Ghz and 740QM @ 1.86GHz. The performance difference is ~50-55%!! (The difference in clock speed is only ~20%)

Also one more thing that you should keep in mind is your 720QM @ turbo speeds only one or max. two core will go upto max turbo and not all cores.

The i5 2500 (3.3GHz, 4 Cores) and Turbo upto 3.7GHz is a speed demon and would outperform your laptop processor by 2.5-3 times when all cores are loaded :p

The newer IvyBridge processor that will be released next year should be compatible with the H67 LGA1155 and you can pop one in in place of i5 2500 if you need it!

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Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

'K' series and non-K have same performance unless K is OCed!
 
samiryadav said:
@ DarkAngel.....you are awesome.

1 more thing >> the new IvyBridge series will not support P67 chipset?
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Its supposed to be backwards compatible with LGA1155 socket (H67,P67 and upcoming Z68 chipset based mobos)
 
thats great.

any way thanks.

but as i will never upgrade it.so dont you think it is better to get P67 as i am also getting graphicard ?
 
samiryadav said:
Any reason why it is considered backwards?

as i read somewhere

P67=enthusiast chipset (CPU overclocking possiblities)

H67=value chipset (GPU overclocking capability) (for Value users)

Z68= CPU + GPU overclock capability.(so it is better than both)
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Yeah what you understood about the chipsets is correct but with a small correction. GPU can be overclocked in all 3 chipsets. CPU cant be OCed in H67.

The important difference between H67 and Z68 is P67 can't power your monitor since it lacks display ports like VGA/DVI/HDMI despite the processor having integrated graphics in them! So with a P67 a user has to get a Nvidia or AMD/ATI GPU.

But Z68 combines the goodness of H67 and P67 ie., it can power your display and also allows you to OC your processor. So you dont require a separate GPU if you dont want to game or do high end productivity stuff :)

Ivybridge is a future gen. processor and LGA1155 is current gen. socket. When a Ivy Bridge release LGA1155 would become previous gen. So what else would one call it other than backward compatibility :S
 
DarkAngel said:
Yeah what you understood about the chipsets is correct.

Ivybridge is a future gen. processor and LGA1155 is current gen. socket. When a Ivy Bridge release LGA1155 would become previous gen. So what else would one call it other than backward compatibility :S
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yep i understood it wrong ..... (exams ahead :p) i corrected it with different post.

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thats great.

any way thanks.

but as i will never upgrade it.so dont you think it is better to get P67 as i am also getting graphicard ?

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DarkAngel said:
The important difference between H67 and Z68 is P67 can't power your monitor since it lacks display ports like VGA/DVI/HDMI despite the processor having integrated graphics in them! So with a P67 a user has to get a Nvidia or AMD/ATI GPU.
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is reverse of it is also true.?
if i am getting a Graphic card(nvidia/ati) and my budget allows me , i should get a P67 chipset motherboard?

i know i am burning cool penguin's head(Think it that way >you are information server and i am dumb client and so i will keep sending you request until all my processes are complete :p .so plz bear with me :) .
 
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