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<blockquote data-quote="Neotheone" data-source="post: 2512898" data-attributes="member: 487"><p>In my view, large economic interests have near complete control of narratives in the modern world and these entities (companies) are amoral, and can not think beyond next few quarter's profitablity.</p><p></p><p>No matter what scientific evidence is presented, labels of anti-vaxers are used to scuttle all criticism instead of any meaningful attempt at probing risks. Declining human attention spans and social media driven misinformation compounds the problem. Yet, I guess it is consistent with human history. I am sure rumors and big lies probably had a part to play, along with powerful entrenched interests, in the fall of most civilizations. However, I desperately hope that either I am wrong, or we somehow course correct.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not completely sure what this claim is based on, as chadox1 ncov-19 (Astrazeneca)'s self claimed efficacy (essentially estimate of risk-reward balance) was much lower than pfizer and moderna's at stage 3 trials stage. Yet, there can be a reasonable hypothesis that unknown risks could be lower, as MRNA vaccines (moderna, phizer) are a new technology and can potentially have higher unknown risks.</p><p></p><p>However, we now know based on some data and research that known risks across vaccines are already worse than what was estimated at the trial stage. We have no such analysis on COVAXIN, given the "exemplary data transparency" by our government (although risks could be lower, as it was based on the most time-tested vaccine design approach (inactivated viral vector).</p><p></p><p>Back to the recent report on study of risks, even this news coverage is sugar coated with arguments that risk of vaccine is less than risk of COVID. Yet, nobody can scientifically claim that long term risks would not turn out to be higher than what trials estimated. This is because trials were not even designed to look for long term risks.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.livemint.com/science/health/suffering-from-heart-brain-disorders-global-study-links-covid-19-vaccines-with-13-medical-conditions-11708520855014.html[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neotheone, post: 2512898, member: 487"] In my view, large economic interests have near complete control of narratives in the modern world and these entities (companies) are amoral, and can not think beyond next few quarter's profitablity. No matter what scientific evidence is presented, labels of anti-vaxers are used to scuttle all criticism instead of any meaningful attempt at probing risks. Declining human attention spans and social media driven misinformation compounds the problem. Yet, I guess it is consistent with human history. I am sure rumors and big lies probably had a part to play, along with powerful entrenched interests, in the fall of most civilizations. However, I desperately hope that either I am wrong, or we somehow course correct. I am not completely sure what this claim is based on, as chadox1 ncov-19 (Astrazeneca)'s self claimed efficacy (essentially estimate of risk-reward balance) was much lower than pfizer and moderna's at stage 3 trials stage. Yet, there can be a reasonable hypothesis that unknown risks could be lower, as MRNA vaccines (moderna, phizer) are a new technology and can potentially have higher unknown risks. However, we now know based on some data and research that known risks across vaccines are already worse than what was estimated at the trial stage. We have no such analysis on COVAXIN, given the "exemplary data transparency" by our government (although risks could be lower, as it was based on the most time-tested vaccine design approach (inactivated viral vector). Back to the recent report on study of risks, even this news coverage is sugar coated with arguments that risk of vaccine is less than risk of COVID. Yet, nobody can scientifically claim that long term risks would not turn out to be higher than what trials estimated. This is because trials were not even designed to look for long term risks. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.livemint.com/science/health/suffering-from-heart-brain-disorders-global-study-links-covid-19-vaccines-with-13-medical-conditions-11708520855014.html[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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