ebay seller takes revenge on cheating buyer, by beating shit out of him

avi

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two days ago I saw a thread about experience of ebay sellers. Here's mine. TLDR; some guy cheated me on ebay, so I beat the shit out of him.

This whole thing happened approx 1.5 years ago. I had put up my laptop for sale on ebay. It's cost was some 1.7L and I had put it up for 1.5L. It was almost new, a month old. Due to some problems in family and need of money, I had put it up for sale. So it was at nice price and I was getting some good feedback. I am from Mumbai and a buyer from Bangalore bought it. I promptly shipped it with well packaging and he received it after 3 days. Next 3 days he was quiet and then he raised an Ebay Guarantee Claim against me and claimed me that I have sent a faulty laptop.

I was new to ebay as a seller. (as a buyer I have 200+ feedback.) and this was my first sale. Ebay asked me to solve the issue with him.

Since it was well within under warranty, I asked him to contact dell and see what they say. And he denied it saying he has no time and neither he was expecting a faulty laptop.

After couple of email exchanges I had to give up. So I agreed to take it back provided he bears return shipping costs. he sent me back in same packaging. Except that, it didn't come with my laptop and some broken laptop. I was shocked and I called ebay asap. They took about 2 hours to get on line. Well the rep said send us pics etc. Which I did.

Buyer claimed he did send my laptop back and there was no mistake from his side. He also shared the courier bill which displayed the weight and volume of package, which exactly matched mine.

Thats when I realized I was cheated and this was rather much elaborative plan from the buyer. I was so down at that moment, I locked myself in a room and cried. Because I knew I am never gonna receive any money from the buyer. or ebay.

Next few days went on exchanging emails. I begged the buyer, begged ebay. But none of them listened. Someone suggested me to contact ebay.com and higher ups. Tweet in social media, but everything was ignored. I started spending time on ebay community forums and this kind of cheating was common to everyone. poeple would just send back empty box, or broken mobiles, or taking HDD etc parts from the laptop etc. It was horrifying to read.

After 10 days (I think), the dispute was ended and ebay sided with buyer and refunded his money back. He had some 50+ positive buyer feedback and I had zero seller feedback. I thought ebay also has seller protection, looks like I was wrong. He also left me a -ve feedback for all this.

Next, after suggestion of my friends, I filed a case at Cyber Crime Mumbai. Long story, short, nothing good came out of it after a month.

So I had to let go of it anyway. I badly needed money and I had to take loan from a friend. Thanks to the buyer, he almost cost life of someone dear to me. Later, I called the buyer, when all ended. He was laughing in phone and told me he made a 'chutiya' to me. He was proud about that. He said he had done many times and he will do many times to make profits. Too bad I didn't record that call.

I almost fell into a depression for this. 1.5L was not a small sum for me. It almost broke me inside. I started drinking more and wasting money. I was becoming a different person. Getting snarky all the time, shouting, getting angry easily etc. That stage of my life was real bad.

After 6 months, I went to Bangalore on official work. And I stayed at my old friend's place. And I shared him entire story. And after couple of pegs, we decided that we gotta teach the buyer a lesson.

His home was some 15-16Km away from where we stayed. I had his address, but did not know how he looked etc. So we went near to his home, stayed at a nearby playground/park and started observing movements. An hour later a guy came out. I guessed he could be the one. So I called him from my phone he picked it up. I disconnected. Did one more time and spoke with him. I knew his name. So I asked for 'hey, are you XYZ'? He said yes. Then I asked about 'how are you, how is your new job etc', this was to show I had called to a wrong number, but with similar name. Obviously he denied and then I asked 'are you ABC not_his_surname', he denied and said, 'no, I am XYZ real_surname'. So thats how I confirmed the guy. Knew what bike he rides etc.

I went back to mumbai after my office work was finished. I had made him a call, which was dubious so it wasn't right time to do anything. A month later I came back to Bangalore again on official work. And me and my friend again tracked him.

one late evening, somewhere around 9pm, we caught him near the playground. It was dark and there were no people at all. We both were wearing helmets and stopped him asking for an address. While my friend was asking for address, I hit him hard and he fell off the bike. Before he could realise what was happening, I dragged him to a corner in the park and started hitting. My friend parked both of our bikes and joined me.

Then I beat the shit out of him. I was very angry for what he had done. we had brought a cricket bat and I hit his legs till the bat broke. Then I found an iron rod near, and I started beating with that. My friend knew this was getting serious, so he started asking me to stop. I never listened. And that buyer had gone unconscious already. I broke his right leg, beyond repair with the rod. I am sure it almost got separated. And neither I spared the left leg. I knew I had made him a cripple. Then I took a large stone and threw on his right leg. That was it.

I took all his belongings, so that it looks like an attempted robbery. We ran away. We ran like anything on our bike. next morning I went to my office as if nothing had happened and after finishing work I went back to Mumbai.

So, am I proud for what I have done? No, certainly not. And to think of it i regret a lot for what I have done. He is a serial cheater and there are many such people. And still I didn't feel it's right, what I did. Still today it haunts me. In my whole life I never had beat up anyone and that incident scares me. The evil inside me had come out.

I checked his facebook sometime later after months. I confirmed it that he had permanently had become a cripple. I cried that day.

People like him ruin lives of many people. Go to ebay forums, you will see so many people pulling similar stunt what he had done. So many sellers are in loss of lakhs of rupees. And I still feel bad for what I had done, even though I weeded out a bad apple. And neither there's no way to confirm he stopped doing that.

http://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/36r1mp/sometimes_you_have_to_do_wrong_to_set_things_right/

It's reddit. so he could be lying too, no way to verify this story. But... man. This story is terrifying.
 
Dont know. I feel for the seller. To cheat someone out of 1.5L is no joke. I don't know if I support the beating, if it really happened, but I don't care for the buyer.

Although I would have been happier if the buyer got crippled due to an incident that didn't involve the seller. Guys like that needs to know what they do have consequences.
Sitting behind a PC gives people a false sense of security. It should not be the case.
 
I can somewhat empathise with the seller here w.r.t. the beating. At the exact moment when you are involved in the fight you wont feel much due to the emotion and adrenalin etc... but when you think back after a few days you really feel bad.

being all that said, bad is bad... all you do after that is somehow try to justify it. but then I always tell my self that there is no such thing as good or bad. there are only "things".
 
Damn!
I hope this was not true!
If it was, I want him to be caught and punished.
I guess he feels pretty guilty and torn up too, why else would he confess to this on reddit?
 
sooner or later, seller will be caught if this story is true. if anyone reading seller's confession happens to know about the beating incident (thru newspaper, mutual friends, relatives etc), he/she can report it to the police. seller also posted a screenshot which gives out a part of buyer's details: vishal from byatarayanapura, karnataka.

lot of people have gotten caught after they made such confessions on internet.
 
isn't avi from karnataka?
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I hope this story is true. Sorry, it is hard to sympathize with a low-life like the buyer.

**** the IPC and the law. If someone makes a mockery of a contract, he deserves worse.
 
Damn!
I hope this was not true!
Well done, if this story is for real.
I hope this story is true.
It's very difficult to confirm. Unless by someone from ebay or the buyer itself. So I wouldn't believe this story completely. However keep in mind that there are so many sellers who get cheated on ebay, everyday. And we all know, ebay usually sides with the buyer and known for being buyer friendly. I just opened the ebay community forum and this is literally the top post now:

Claim ID:969957,
Paisa pay id: 39040574574
I sold an iPhone 5 16gb black on eBay, the buyer claimed that the item was broken so eBay told home to reship the item and approved for refund in buyers favour(false claim), I received an empty box by the buyer. And also he has put 1000rs item validation for that stupid empty box, because Ebay will give him re shipment cost on coupon. Very clever buyer. He is a Greatest fraud on eBay. I claimed seller protection on eBay,but still I did not get any response,waiting for it.
Daily am calling eBay service team also. Tomorrow he is getting his refund amount in his bank. I think I'm going to loose both by money and my product. Am really disappointed and worried about this. It's not a small amount of money, it's hard earned money. Please help.

Secondly, it's not unheard of or uncommon, where people doing extreme things in vengeance. So, I would believe this story by 40%.

but crippling someone beyond repair is another entirely.
There can be no support for what he did.
Also, he will never know why someone beat him. And whats the probability that he will stop cheating?

sooner or later, seller will be caught if this story is true
Yes. he can be easily caught, if buyer comes forward. But what happens to the buyer? Will he be also punished by law?

One more thing, the cost of laptop is 1.5L to 1.7L. I bet it's Alienware. OP mentioned about Dell and Alienwares cost above 1.5L. Now all ebay gotta do is:

Code:
SELECT * FROM SALES WHERE user_id LIKE 'am%' AND user_name LIKE 'Vishal%' AND address LIKE '%Byatarayanpura%' AND LIKE item '%Alienware%' AND order_date BETWEEN #01/01/2013# AND #01/12/2014#;

isn't avi from karnataka?
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*checks legs* hey both of my legs are fine.
 
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We were duped by a guy to the tune of 3.5L in US. I can get pretty angry and have got into a few fights on the road but I don't think I can ever get that violent. As for the guy who duped us, he got caught and is serving a sentence for grand larceny.

As for the issue at hand, things like these happen everywhere and is very common in US also. My friends in US do complete documentation of packing and dropping the package at the post office. And similarly of opening a package received.
I myself have sold many phones on eBay and in each and every case, I take insurance, which means that the guy accepting the package at the courier office packs the package himself. If ever, a customer would have tried to pull a stunt like this, I would have asked for proof and used those pics to get a claim from the courier company. Also if one has proper documentation, one can go to consumer court against eBay's wrong decision.

The guys I learned this from have been buying and selling online in the US for years now.
Recently one of them sold an iPhone to someone. That guy returned the phone saying it is 'not as described'. What he received back was a tampered phone with the motherboard having replaced. Due to his extensive documentation PayPal had to listen to him. He was asked to prove the tampering which he did by getting a letter from Apple Tech support regarding the same and PayPal decided the case in his favor. In this day and age, you really have to cover all your bases as there are cheats everywhere.
 
This guy overdid it. if he knew where the culprit lived he could have called the cops or at the most approached him and said i know where you live, either hand over the laptop/money or i'll call the cops on you.
 
What is beyond me is; why on earth should he post this on such a forum which has like zillions of readers.

First what he did was on extreme side; he could have put a blanket first ;), making some one incapable for life is not justified.

Now may be he felt guilty; and want to let it out; but on internet and that too on Reddit. It will not be very difficult to track him. Talk about covering your traces :facepalm:
 
now clickbait articles on te aswell hahahaha .. u click thinking its some interesting topic,, turns out some bogus reddit story with no facts.


wassteee off timeee avi!!!
 
What is beyond me is; why on earth should he post this on such a forum which has like zillions of readers.

First what he did was on extreme side; he could have put a blanket first ;), making some one incapable for life is not justified.

Now may be he felt guilty; and want to let it out; but on internet and that too on Reddit. It will not be very difficult to track him. Talk about covering your traces :facepalm:
'cambal' parade, I know where you got this idea :p . The seller went full Wasseypur style on the cheat, I think the beating is justified, the cheats behaviour explained that he never knew the consequences of cheating someone, it was time he knew. And since the seller crippled him for life, he should be serving a sentence too.
 
eBay sellers should use tamper proof stickers on such costly devices and take pics before sending them. Put stickers on the edges and on the screws too possibly with some watermark. I don't know how much making a customized hologram sticker costs, but that would be the ultimate. Put hologram stickers on anything that can be replaced.
 
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