Budget 31-40k Advice for programming PC (ML)

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moggab

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  1. What is your budget?
    • 30K
  2. What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)
    • Monitor - Dell 2409
  3. Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)
    • Monitor - Dell 2409
  4. Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.
    • Everything apart from the monitor, i dont have a favorite. I Just need a 64 bit pc on which I can run couple of VM.
  5. Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component
    • I would like to increase the ram to 16 GB if it helps.
  6. Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)
    • Delhi (Nehru place)
  7. Would you consider buying a second hand hardware from the TE market
    • No
  8. What is your intended use for this PC/hardware
    • Programming
    • Browsing
  9. Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.
    • NA
  10. If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?
    • Age of empires
  11. What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage
    1. No preference
  12. Are you looking to overclock?
    • No
  13. Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?
    • Windows 7 or 10 64 bit
    • Linux - Latest ubuntu
 
I think ultimately the choice will be between i3 8100 - 8470/- vs Ryzen 2200g - 7850/- . Maybe the experts can throw some more light on this. I have never used an AMD so my bias is towards intel.
For now, I can live with 8gb DDR4 ram but would like to upgrade in 6-8 months to 16gb.
Also I would prefer a motherboard with 4 RAM slots, just in case some slots might get bad.

Is USB 3.0 still the prevailing standard?
For storage, should I go for 120 gb SSD + 1 TB HDD ?
Would it be good to have windows 10 installed and then put linux in a VM or just linux should suffice ?

This pc will be primarily used for programming (ML, Data science). For torrenting and browsing i have another laptop.


Thanks for any advice.
 
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Ryzen 2200G is all rounder processor. OTOH i3 8100 would be behind Ryzen in GPU part but ahead in CPU part. You might also want to check motherboard and chipset flexibility. With AMD, you can upgrade by 2020 using same motherboard.

Yes USB3.0 is current gen.

120GB + 1TB is good idea. Just note that 120GB fills up pretty quickly. 250GB SSD drives are about 6000 (Samsung EVO 860).
 
Thanks for the reply. I am not planning to upgrade the processor anytime soon. So which motherboard + processor, do you recommend, as I said my usage will be primarily programming and a bit of movies/browsing.

This 120gb storage will only be the primary partition right?? as in it will contain the windows and main app installation. Will it not be enough?
So following are what I have seen in the forum:
Corsair 8gb DDR4 RAM - 6400
Corsair CX450 - 3400
Samsung evo 250 gb internal ssd - 5900
1 TB HDD - Seagate barracuda - 2895
CPU - ???
Motherboard - ???
cabinet - ??

What else am I missing?
 
moggab said:
This 120gb storage will only be the primary partition right?? as in it will contain the windows and main app installation. Will it not be enough?
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Initially it seems it will be enough but stuff fills up fast.

moggab said:
1 TB HDD - Seagate barracuda - 2895
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Avoid Seagate. WD Red is very good drive but I think it could exceed overall budget. You may have a look at WD Blue drives.
 
So WD Blue it is.

Now to finalize -
CPU - ???
Motherboard - ??? (4 RAM slots)
Cabinet - ??

Also the ram, should i buy the dual channel 8gb ram considering I will add another 8 gb by next year ? If yes then which one??
Corsair CX450 is good enough power supply for this rig?
 
I have done some more digging and here's the configuration I came up with :

AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor - 7850/-
Cooler Master HYPER 212 TURBO - 2870
Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard - 6,559 /-
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory CMK8GX4M1D3000C16- 7100
Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive -- 2850
samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (MZ-76E250BW) -- 5900
NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case -- 6000
Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply - 3400
keyboard + mice - 1500

Total - 44000 /-

I am overstepping my budge by a good 7-10k. Any suggestions on how to cap it a bit down.
 
I am planning to do most heavy computations in cloud using free AWS account. If really required, I can upgrade a GPU later. But right now its just out of my budget.
 
moggab said:
I have done some more digging and here's the configuration I came up with :

AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor - 7850/-
Cooler Master HYPER 212 TURBO - 2870 >> No need to get after market cooler
Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard - 6,559 /- >> Check if ASUS PRIME B350M-A can save some money here
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory CMK8GX4M1D3000C16- 7100
Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive -- 2850
samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (MZ-76E250BW) -- 5900
NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case -- 6000 >> Some amount can be saved here
Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply - 3400
keyboard + mice - 1500

Total - 44000 /-

I am overstepping my budge by a good 7-10k. Any suggestions on how to cap it a bit down.
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Thanks for the reply @vyral_143

When you say no need to get after market cooler .. does it mean that the cooler will be in built with the processor/case? or this config doesnt require?

ASUS Prime B350 A is 7500/- in mdcomputers

NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case is 5000/- in mdcomputers.
Do you have any other suggestions ??

What about power supply?? Is what I have chosen good enough?? Are there any other options?

I am sorry I have many naive questions, but I have not built a rig in 10 years and the world of pc has undergone a sea change in that time.
 
moggab said:
When you say no need to get after market cooler .. does it mean that the cooler will be in built with the processor/case? or this config doesnt require?
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Yes, you should get one with processor.

moggab said:
ASUS Prime B350 A is 7500/- in mdcomputers
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May be you can stick to your original selection.

Also I think prices offline should be cheaper compared to online portals. I am not 100% confident on this though.
 
Thanks, just reiterating a couple of unanswered queries:
Do you have any other suggestions for case??

What about power supply?? Is "Corsair CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply" good enough?? Are there any other options?[DOUBLEPOST=1530516742][/DOUBLEPOST]Hi guys, any suggestions, I really needed to close this one out. Thanks in Advance.
 
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moggab said:
Thanks, just reiterating a couple of unanswered queries:
Do you have any other suggestions for case??

What about power supply?? Is "Corsair CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply" good enough?? Are there any other options?[DOUBLEPOST=1530516742][/DOUBLEPOST]Hi guys, any suggestions, I really needed to close this one out. Thanks in Advance.
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Have not heard about this PSU - honestly I am not in great touch with current peripherals. But some Google reads mention this as good budget PSU.

About case, is there any specific requirement on your mid ? If its just design and looks, its quite subjective. From my liking, I can suggest you few models/series.
Corsair Carbide SPEC series
Antec GX200
Cooler Master Q300L, Force 500
 
Thanks for the suggestions.
I am not looking for design or looks, just most efficient. I have also looked at the following:
Deepcool Tesseract Sw Mid Tower PC Cabinets - 3500/
cooler master k380 - 2900/-

Apart from looks are these all same?
Also can you suggest any UPS. I dont have any inverter at home and will need 1-2 min power supply to save everything and shut down.
Do I need a stabilizer as well or the power strips which protects against power surges are enough?
 
Here's the configuration i finally bought:
Ryzen 3 G2200 - 6400/-
Gigabyte AX370M Gaming 3 - 6779/-
WD Blue 1 TB + SSD samsung 860 EVO 250 GB - 5084/-
Corsair 8gb DDR4 3000 MHZ - 5990/-
Cooler Master ELITE 311 - 2199/- + fan 307/-
Cooler Master MWE550 2788/-
Logitech mouse/kbd wireless MK220 - 918/-
UPS APC 600VA - 2076/-

price- 34,989/-
Tax - 6300/-

Total - 41287/-
+ Windows 10 installation - 2000/-

All prices Nehru place (Cost - to - Cost)

A few things I found out after coming home.
1. Cooler Master MWE500 has UK power fuse. So needed to buy an adapter 6/16 AMP.
2. Motherboard didnt have any wifi adapter in built. Thinking of buying - TP-Link TL-WN725N 150Mbps Wireless N Nano USB Adapter

Thanks for all the advice. You guys are awesome.
 
vyral_143 said:
Congratulations !



This is shady though



Also sure on this ?
EDIT: Looks 2478 diff in total and individual price is attributed to it.
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Yeah windows installation was shady, but he said its genuine and money back if there are any errors in updates.
I only listed SSD price and forgot the HDD price - 2449/-

I wanted to confirm about the wifi adapter, is what I listed, a good choice?
Is it a norm nowadays that motherboards dont have inbuilt wifi adapters?
 
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