today I was browsing for a mp3 player for my brother, just saw couple of deals @ NewEgg :
Creative ZEN X-Fi 2.5" Black 8GB -$112.00[B] + free shipping
OR
Creative ZEN 2.5" Black 8GB - [B]$88.00 + free shipping
Also considering, for the normal zens, I may need to spend some 10-15$ extra...