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[Gaurish]

Hi,
I want to try my hand at overclocking just for kicks, this is something which I haven't done before, so its not new to me. so seems lot of fun:ohyeah:

here is my hardware config

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Computer:

Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3


Motherboard:
CPU Type DualCore Intel Pentium E5300, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200)
Motherboard Name Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L v1 (2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 2 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Video, Gigabit LAN)
Motherboard Chipset Intel Bearlake G31
System Memory 2048 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DIMM1: OCZ Titanium XTC OCZ2T800C42G 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz) (3-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)
BIOS Type Award Modular (03/12/09)


Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO (384 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 793S/793V/MagicSyncMaster CM173G [17" CRT] (HHAY525998)

My Aim it to take things slowly and make sure I don't damage the system, offcourse I want to extract every last bit of performance from this machine.

Here are the current Temps:

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--------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type ITE IT8718F (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type Diode (NV-Diode)
Chassis Intrusion Detected Yes

Temperatures:
CPU 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 46 °C (115 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 45 °C (113 °F)
GPU Diode 47 °C (117 °F)
Seagate ST3320620AS 43 °C (109 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 1116 RPM
GPU 55%

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.25 V
+2.5 V 1.92 V
+3.3 V 3.36 V
+5 V 4.92 V
+12 V 1.98 V
+5 V Standby 5.13 V
VBAT Battery 3.15 V
Debug Info F 025D FFFF 0000 0000 0000
Debug Info T 201 254 40
Debug Info V 4E 78 D2 B7 1F FF FF (7F)


--------[ CPU ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Properties:
CPU Type DualCore Intel Pentium E5300, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200)
CPU Alias Wolfdale-2M
CPU Stepping R0
Instruction Set x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3
Original Clock 2600 MHz
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 6x / 13x
Engineering Sample No
L1 Code Cache 32 KB per core
L1 Data Cache 32 KB per core
L2 Cache 2 MB (On-Die, ECC, ASC, Full-Speed)

Multi CPU:
Motherboard ID OEM00000 PROD00000000
CPU #1 IntelPentium® Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.60GHz, 2600 MHz
CPU #2 IntelPentium® Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.60GHz, 2600 MHz


CPU Utilization:
CPU #1 / Core #1 0 %
CPU #1 / Core #2 100 %


--------[ CPUID ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPUID Properties:
CPUID Manufacturer GenuineIntel
CPUID CPU Name Pentium® Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.60GHz
CPUID Revision 0001067Ah
IA Brand ID 00h (Unknown)
Platform ID 2Bh / MC 01h (LGA775)
Microcode Update Revision A07
HTT / CMP Units 0 / 2
Tjmax Temperature 100 °C (212 °F)
CPU Thermal Design Power 65 W

Please guide which tools to use and how to proceed further

[asingh]

Questions:
1. Which HSF you have.
2. Which PSU you have.

Download following:
1. Realtemp.
2. CPUZ.
3. OCCT.
4. Prime95.
5. Furmark.

Do the following:
1. Run RealTEMP and see if you get sensor movement on both cores.
2. Set TJMax to 90C on RealTEMP.
3. What temperatures you have on idle as per RealTEMP
4. Before getting the temperatures, go to BIOS, reset it to default. Boot in. Come back to BIOS, disable all power saving options.

Do, all this for starters, than we can proceed.

**************DISCLAIMER*****************
THIS FORUM OR ME, ANIL SINGH, HOLD NO LIABILITY
OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR SYSTEM MALFUNCTION,
SYSTEM FAILURE/COMPONENT BURN/SYSTEM
INSTABILITY.
**************DISCLAIMER*****************

[dvijaydev46]

Your CPUs at idle are somewhat hotter than normal. Which cabinet, and PSU? I assume you don't have a third party HSF. If so get one before any OC attempt.

[Gaurish]

Actually, the temps I think are lower than normal. the temps you saw were after 3hours of continuous gaming of Batman AA. additionally, I didn't turn off the PC in past 1 week or so, so its running long. that may be the reson for slightly higher temps

here is normal Idle temp after running the PC for 10-12hours of downloading:


Lastly, this rig is powered by SeaSonic S12II 380W 80+ BRONZE PSU. Cabinet is generic one with a side fan. the cooler is stock one and i don't want to upgrade to aftermarket cooler.Because, I have seen people hitting 3.6Ghz on stock cooler.

[comp@ddict]

the distance to tj max temps seem abnormal......

[Gaurish]

comp@ddict said:

the distance to tj max temps seem abnormal......

As said by @asingh, TjMax is set at 95C. should I set it at 70-80C?

[M@crosoft]

hey gaurish,
as u could see i have pretty much the same config except the gfs card
u just need too set the system voltages to auto and increase the clock speed slowly 100>103>107>115
find out the stable clock and let not the cpu volts go beyond 1.4~1.5 v

[viralbug]

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CPU Type DualCore Intel Pentium E5300, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200)

Where did you paste this config from? E5300 is supposed to be clocked at 2600Mhz.

[dvijaydev46]

Gaurish said:

Cabinet is generic one with a side fan. the cooler is stock one and i don't want to upgrade to aftermarket cooler.Because, I have seen people hitting 3.6Ghz on stock cooler.

Because its' a 45 nm part, intel decided to make the HSF smaller than before. It will be enough for stock operation, not beyond its rated speed. added to that you have a generic cabinet, inside which you can't expect good amount of air flow. Your system may be OCed, but continuous operation at high speeds will surely produce more heat which will speed up electron migration, reducing the life of CPU. I'm again telling you, if something works for others, that doesn't mean it will work for you.

[M@crosoft]

viralbug said:

Where did you paste this config from? E5300 is supposed to be clocked at 2600Mhz.

mistype i think

[asingh]

Gaurish said:

Actually, the temps I think are lower than normal. the temps you saw were after 3hours of continuous gaming of Batman AA. additionally, I didn't turn off the PC in past 1 week or so, so its running long. that may be the reson for slightly higher temps

here is normal Idle temp after running the PC for 10-12hours of downloading:


Lastly, this rig is powered by SeaSonic S12II 380W 80+ BRONZE PSU. Cabinet is generic one with a side fan. the cooler is stock one and i don't want to upgrade to aftermarket cooler.Because, I have seen people hitting 3.6Ghz on stock cooler.

Can you run the sensor test, with Prime95 (2 worker threads), and post the screen shot of the temperature gradient you get. Keep everything to normal. Have you stocked the rig. Keep TJMax to 90. That is what I had said.

microsoft said:

hey gaurish,
as u could see i have pretty much the same config except the gfs card
u just need too set the system voltages to auto and increase the clock speed slowly 100>103>107>115
find out the stable clock and let not the cpu volts go beyond 1.4~1.5 v

Will he not need to set the vCore manually..?

dvijaydev46 said:

Because its' a 45 nm part, intel decided to make the HSF smaller than before. It will be enough for stock operation, not beyond its rated speed. added to that you have a generic cabinet, inside which you can't expect good amount of air flow. Your system may be OCed, but continuous operation at high speeds will surely produce more heat which will speed up electron migration, reducing the life of CPU. I'm again telling you, if something works for others, that doesn't mean it will work for you.

Correct. That is why I asked him for initial reading, before mentioning OC. So I can see the system status on stock.

[goodakash]

First try to overclock at 3.3ghz without increasing the volts. I have an E5200, and it is doing 3.3ghz without a bump in volts. And Keep a check on your temps.

[tosh79]

Mate,

if you are lucky should be able do 3.4 Ghz with out any vcore modifications or else a min of 3.2 Ghz on stock is definately possible, my E5200 does 3.4 Ghz on stock vcore. if you stick to overclocking @ stock vcore you need not worry too much about temps.

[asingh]

tosh79 said:

Mate,

if you are lucky should be able do 3.4 Ghz with out any vcore modifications or else a min of 3.2 Ghz on stock is definately possible, my E5200 does 3.4 Ghz on stock vcore. if you stick to overclocking @ stock vcore you need not worry too much about temps.

Risky..you OC like this..?

[tosh79]

asingh said:

Risky..you OC like this..?

Well,

I do keep tab of temps with my Oc's, but i do not worry to much about temps if they stay below 70 Deg under load, at stock load 2 or 3 deg more then normal does not bother me. It is the tempratures under full load is what matters most to me.

[Rockfella]

This is best way for decent 24x7 usage OC ;)

asingh said:

Risky..you OC like this..?

[asingh]

tosh79 said:

Well,

I do keep tab of temps with my Oc's, but i do not worry to much about temps if they stay below 70 Deg under load, at stock load 2 or 3 deg more then normal does not bother me. It is the tempratures under full load is what matters most to me.

That is why I am being so particular with the OP about his OC. We cannot directly correlate his CPU/HSF temperatures to yours, even if both things are exactly the same. He needs to show the RealTEMP load run temperatures once, so we can advice further.

By the way, you have two systems. Signature shows E7200, and you were also talking about an E5xxx.

Okay, just saw you signature. You have two setups. My bad.

[Gaurish]

Here is my Prime95 stress test with sense test report with TJ Max set to 95C

viralbug said:

Where did you paste this config from? E5300 is supposed to be clocked at 2600Mhz.

I guess, lower clock are because of Energy Saving Features in the Mobo. see above pic, the CPU is running at 1200Mhz only.

[asingh]

^^...

Well you will need to disable all energy savings / and auto functions from the BIOS. Also bring your ram to the EPP settings.

The first step in a good OC is:
To 'stock' your system and get it stable at the lowest possible vCore. I am now actually telling you exactly the opposite of what you asked. The reason I am doing this, is so we know / have an absolute stable baseline for your system. All your power saving and auto settings have to be disabled.

1. Via changing the FSB bring your system straight to 2.6Ghz. Save the settings, and run the full Prime95.
2. If it passes, go back into the BIOS and lower the vCore 0.05volts. Save and run tests again.

Keep doing this, till you reach the absolute lowest vCore your system can run on. And then make a final RealTEMP screen shot. Then come back. By doing this, you are also practicing OC. By the way, you will get a lot of BSOD, system locks. Do not panic.

Best of luck.

[sudan_rulz]

asingh said:

Questions:
1. Which HSF you have.
2. Which PSU you have.

Download following:
1. Realtemp.
2. CPUZ.
3. OCCT.
4. Prime95.
5. Furmark.

Do the following:
1. Run RealTEMP and see if you get sensor movement on both cores.
2. Set TJMax to 90C on RealTEMP.
3. What temperatures you have on idle as per RealTEMP
4. Before getting the temperatures, go to BIOS, reset it to default. Boot in. Come back to BIOS, disable all power saving options.

Do, all this for starters, than we can proceed.

**************DISCLAIMER*****************
THIS FORUM OR ME, ANIL SINGH, HOLD NO LIABILITY
OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR SYSTEM MALFUNCTION,
SYSTEM FAILURE/COMPONENT BURN/SYSTEM
INSTABILITY.
**************DISCLAIMER*****************

TJMax to 90 for a dual core cpu???
r u sure abt dat??