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[Switch]

Is there a mobile which support downloading P2P apps through wifi and is there a app written for the same. If not can i believe this could be the answer to all our downloading problems. A app like utorrent with a scheduler and a mobile which has 20+ GB HDD space or a mobile which supports decent external storage of anykind coulkd be answer to all our P2P problems.

If there is one let me know about it. And if there isnt then why doesn't devlopers make one.

TIA

Switch

P.S. A device like zune or ipod touch with Wifi will also fit the bill perfectly. Are there any such similar apps for the same.

[Party Monger]

there is a torrent app for symbian s60 --- SymTorrent for S60 3rd edition!
How to: Torrent for Symbian made Simply | Simply Symbian

and direct download apps too..
Freeware: SmartGET - Powerful S60 download manager

both work well..

[G@d of w@r]

there is an application for windows mobile also please check :
WinMobile Torrent

[Anish]

Its not really feasible to download a 1GB+ file on the mobile phone, though theoretically it may sound okay, I've read there are lots of issues like disk caching and poor transfer speeds. Besides these apps are poorly coded and the amount of data flowing through them cause very frequent hang ups and crashes.

There is a P2P app for the iPod touch (Which will perform a LOT better than S60 and WinMo for sure!), check it out

[UPDATE] Torrentula.app v1.2 (should work on all firmwares) - iPod touch Fans forum

[Party Monger]

Anish said:

There is a P2P app for the iPod touch (Which will perform a LOT better than S60 and WinMo for sure!), check it out

Any particular reason??

[Anish]

^ Yeah, the coding for the OS to start with. Copying a file from one drive to another via File Manager will take ages (Not for copying time, but for the OS to refresh and display the changes).

Besides, they are as it is so buggy with none having a half-decent browser, it'll be nightmarish to try and DL large p2p files on either.

Besides, I doubt any of them will offer > 8GB storage.

[Party Monger]

Anish said:

^ Yeah, the coding for the OS to start with. Copying a file from one drive to another via File Manager will take ages (Not for copying time, but for the OS to refresh and display the changes).

Besides, they are as it is so buggy with none having a half-decent browser, it'll be nightmarish to try and DL large p2p files on either.

Besides, I doubt any of them will offer > 8GB storage.

Dunno your experience, but i hav used symtorrent quite a lot and it works very well..just need to make sure port forwarding is enabled through my router..
Most recent nokia phones hav expandable memory + n95 and few others hav 8gb versions + expandable memory..

both nokia and iphone browsers are based on webkit..Both the browsers are equally good...What favours the iphone is its huge screen..

I see no difference whether you download from iphone or any other symbian phone except that you get a huge screen on iphone and that it retails at 3times the cheapest symbian phones with wifi...

Also, with expandable mem, theres nothing more left to say abt the storage..

does the iphone app you mentioned hav a scheduler?? A friend might find the app handy..

[Anish]

^ No clue, check it out, I don't use an iPhone/Touch. Since he's buying a new device, it would make sense to go for a Touch cause of the large inbuilt storage.

[Switch]

I guess with so many flavors of linux there must be something which should should work with touch.

[alsiladka]

Anish said:

Its not really feasible to download a 1GB+ file on the mobile phone, though theoretically it may sound okay, I've read there are lots of issues like disk caching and poor transfer speeds. Besides these apps are poorly coded and the amount of data flowing through them cause very frequent hang ups and crashes.

There is a P2P app for the iPod touch (Which will perform a LOT better than S60 and WinMo for sure!), check it out

[UPDATE] Torrentula.app v1.2 (should work on all firmwares) - iPod touch Fans forum

How come not feasible? Use a E51 with 2 Gb memory card on an 8MBPS wifi to download. The S60 Wifi devices are really cheap, and does not come with a "big brother watching your every move" catch.

Anish said:

^ Yeah, the coding for the OS to start with. Copying a file from one drive to another via File Manager will take ages (Not for copying time, but for the OS to refresh and display the changes).

Besides, they are as it is so buggy with none having a half-decent browser, it'll be nightmarish to try and DL large p2p files on either.

Besides, I doubt any of them will offer > 8GB storage.

Have you even used the different mobile OSs.
Half Decent browser. Hmm... lets take a look.. which OS comes with an inbuilt browser with desktop like page rendering, tabs, webkit based, made mobile browsing worthwhile, and guess what, supports FLASH!!
Need a hint, its not Mac OSX's mobile cousin.

Lay your doubts to rest, they are grossly inaccurate. N96 comes with 16GB Internal memory and supports upto 8GB Card. That is 24GB memory.
Atleast get your facts correct dude.

[alsiladka]

BTW, you also have Symella (Symbian) - Download
Symella is a Gnutella file-sharing client for Symbian smartphones

[linuxtechie]

Anish said:

Its not really feasible to download a 1GB+ file on the mobile phone, though theoretically it may sound okay, I've read there are lots of issues like disk caching and poor transfer speeds. Besides these apps are poorly coded and the amount of data flowing through them cause very frequent hang ups and crashes.

There is a P2P app for the iPod touch (Which will perform a LOT better than S60 and WinMo for sure!), check it out

[UPDATE] Torrentula.app v1.2 (should work on all firmwares) - iPod touch Fans forum

Anish said:

^ Yeah, the coding for the OS to start with. Copying a file from one drive to another via File Manager will take ages (Not for copying time, but for the OS to refresh and display the changes).

Besides, they are as it is so buggy with none having a half-decent browser, it'll be nightmarish to try and DL large p2p files on either.

Besides, I doubt any of them will offer > 8GB storage.

Anish said:

^ No clue, check it out, I don't use an iPhone/Touch. Since he's buying a new device, it would make sense to go for a Touch cause of the large inbuilt storage.

Honestly, you need proper basis before making any call.

~LT

[Switch]

Well i am so far guessing that its possible. Infact very much possible. Though i still don't have either a ipod or a symbian 60 phone but i will mostly buy one in coming months. The idea just stuck to me today morning as i was also planning to build a download rig but again the electricity consumption was a major issue.

I request somebody with proper equipment and spare time to try it out :)

[Anish]

^ I favoured the iPod touch because of this statement and the lower cost as well, considering Switch needed a device for p2p and not a fully blown cellphone.

Switch said:

P.S. A device like zune or ipod touch with Wifi will also fit the bill perfectly. Are there any such similar apps for the same.

@ alsiladka - Dude, I've tried out almost every phone on the market currently and please don't try justifying Symbian one bit cause its definitely slow and the coding is nowhere near perfect. I personally use Symbian (on a P990i) and it still manages to throw up errors every 3-4 days on continuous usage. Same with WinMobile (5,6 and custom ROMs), they are definitely not stable as a rock.

Just curious btw, how many different OS'es have you used?

And don't give me 8Mbps WiFi rubbish, if you have access to a 8Mbps UL WiFi line, then that's excellent, most of us here dont.

@ Party Monger - Continuous disk caching on an external card is not recommended. It greatly reduces the life of the card and is very prone to data loss. I've experienced it first hand when trying to download a torrent onto a Sd card in a laptop slot.

Switch said:

Well i am so far guessing that its possible. Infact very much possible. Though i still don't have either a ipod or a symbian 60 phone but i will mostly buy one in coming months. The idea just stuck to me today morning as i was also planning to build a download rig but again the electricity consumption was a major issue.

I request somebody with proper equipment and spare time to try it out :)

To be honest, give this idea a skip and get yourself a ASUS EEE 4G with an external USB HDD.

[200mph]

but even a mobile with say 8 gb memory u can just do songs. or atmost 1 HD at a time. issue will be seeding it back . copying the files to the pc to store etc etc.

[200mph]

yes a ezee pc or something. or ur current lappy , underclock it. leave it on charge . i guess 60w is the adapter and it wont even take that much when not charging.

[alsiladka]

[quote name='Switch']Well i am so far guessing that its possible. Infact very much possible. Though i still don't have either a ipod or a symbian 60 phone but i will mostly buy one in coming months. The idea just stuck to me today morning as i was also planning to build a download rig but again the electricity consumption was a major issue.

I request somebody with proper equipment and spare time to try it out :)[/quote]
Using Wifi Continously on a phone is going to boil you Battery! You will have to keep it on charge continously, and the battery's life span will be shortened.

[quote=Anish;917256@ alsiladka - Dude, I've tried out almost every phone on the market currently and please don't try justifying Symbian one bit cause its definitely slow and the coding is nowhere near perfect. I personally use Symbian (on a P990i) and it still manages to throw up errors every 3-4 days on continuous usage. Same with WinMobile (5,6 and custom ROMs), they are definitely not stable as a rock.

Just curious btw, how many different OS'es have you used?

And don't give me 8Mbps WiFi rubbish, if you have access to a 8Mbps UL WiFi line, then that's excellent, most of us here dont.

To be honest, give this idea a skip and get yourself a ASUS EEE 4G with an external USB HDD.[/quote]
I have used Win Mobile, S60 as well as UIQ.
Just for your knowledge, P990i runs UIQ, not S60. Completely different offerings based on the core symbian base.

BTW, your idea of the Asus EEE 4G was the best idea you have given till now.

[Anish]

alsiladka said:

I have used Win Mobile, S60 as well as UIQ.
Just for your knowledge, P990i runs UIQ, not S60. Completely different offerings based on the core symbian base.

BTW, your idea of the Asus EEE 4G was the best idea you have given till now.

Ugh, no never give up do you? I mean of course I know my 990 runs UIQ and I'm glad you figured the core was Symbian. To be honest, Sony's UIQ is easily one of the best (If not the best) implementation of Symbian, and I've found it to be extremely laggy with files > 400-500MB (On a 4GB MSPro Duo). So i would even bother trying with S60, get the point?

[Party Monger]

The bottom line is, for frequent use, you shouldnt use mobiles as downloading tools..
Personally, my phone gets very hot when downloading for 5+hrs..not to mention the battery wil go bad in months seeing that the phone is operating on such high temps..And the phone motherboard wil also be at risk..

Asus eepc, the cheapest one will be the best..

[RoBoGhOsT]

i tried symtorrent on my N95 8gb and over wifi but it doesnt work and if works speed is crap :(