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<blockquote data-quote="desiibond" data-source="post: 2522029" data-attributes="member: 23023"><p>Very good. This thread too has turned into 'Top 10 reasons to hate Apple, number 4 will blow your mind' mansplaining thread.</p><p></p><p>To those who think those who buy Mac are idiots, we buy Macs or iPhone because we like them and it fits our needs. You have to come out of this mindset that people should buy products that you approve.</p><p></p><p><strong>This thread is about Snapdragon Elite X, keep it about Snapdragon Elite X and Windows on ARM.</strong></p><p></p><p>I have Dell Latitude 5430 powered by i5-1254U (work laptop) and M2 Pro MBP (personal). When I do compilation on this in VS or using maven, Latitude gets bloody hot. Though it has max TDP of 55W, it runs hot. Though 5430 is supposed to be better, it runs slower in real world usage simply because of the heat and throttling. You wont believe, we barely get 2-3 hour battery life with these new Intel based laptops. Before the Latitude, I had the Yoga 370 with dual core 7th gen chip. It never ran hot as it had dual core i7 chip and has amazing battery life. It got terribly slow as applications and OS moved beyond dual core chips. My MBP M2 Pro one runs lot cooler when I do similar compilations and has much much better battery life.</p><p></p><p>After using both platforms extensively, I would love to have Windows on ARM. x86, by its architecture limitations can never be as efficient as RISC architecture and can never run in a tightly packed chassis without throttling. I am also saying this because early in my career, I was Linux/Unix admin and I loved those Sun SPARC servers. Bloody things were insanely efficient (RISC architecture) and would run for months without a need to reboot. Last one we used was UltraSPARC III and IV. I could not believe that something that ran under 1GHz would easily beat x86 server CPUs and not sweat at all. Back then, Intel was brainwashing that more MHz means more speed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Battery life matters a lot. We spend lot of time collaborating, attend lot of meeting. Now we see more and more engineers and managers carrying power cables to meeting rooms and we do not have enough ports for all. This much need for carrying power cables never happened in the past. If I can take my MBP to work (not allowed), I do not have to charge till i come back to home. My current Wintel laptop need to be charged twice ( I reach office by 8:30 and leave around 4 ). if I do not plug it in.</p><p></p><p><strong>There are so many in my office who do not want to upgrade to these new Intel based laptops simply because they have horrendous battery life for productivity.</strong> They want to stick to their 5 year old laptops and upgrade battery pack if required. As we are not allowed to use laptop that is out of warranty, we are forced to upgrade. We cannot go to those Evo ultrabooks as they have amazing battery life but are inferior at compiling code, running browser with dozens of tabs etc. This is where ARM comes in as a saviour. You get powerful laptops that are not battery guzzlers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="desiibond, post: 2522029, member: 23023"] Very good. This thread too has turned into 'Top 10 reasons to hate Apple, number 4 will blow your mind' mansplaining thread. To those who think those who buy Mac are idiots, we buy Macs or iPhone because we like them and it fits our needs. You have to come out of this mindset that people should buy products that you approve. [B]This thread is about Snapdragon Elite X, keep it about Snapdragon Elite X and Windows on ARM.[/B] I have Dell Latitude 5430 powered by i5-1254U (work laptop) and M2 Pro MBP (personal). When I do compilation on this in VS or using maven, Latitude gets bloody hot. Though it has max TDP of 55W, it runs hot. Though 5430 is supposed to be better, it runs slower in real world usage simply because of the heat and throttling. You wont believe, we barely get 2-3 hour battery life with these new Intel based laptops. Before the Latitude, I had the Yoga 370 with dual core 7th gen chip. It never ran hot as it had dual core i7 chip and has amazing battery life. It got terribly slow as applications and OS moved beyond dual core chips. My MBP M2 Pro one runs lot cooler when I do similar compilations and has much much better battery life. After using both platforms extensively, I would love to have Windows on ARM. x86, by its architecture limitations can never be as efficient as RISC architecture and can never run in a tightly packed chassis without throttling. I am also saying this because early in my career, I was Linux/Unix admin and I loved those Sun SPARC servers. Bloody things were insanely efficient (RISC architecture) and would run for months without a need to reboot. Last one we used was UltraSPARC III and IV. I could not believe that something that ran under 1GHz would easily beat x86 server CPUs and not sweat at all. Back then, Intel was brainwashing that more MHz means more speed. Battery life matters a lot. We spend lot of time collaborating, attend lot of meeting. Now we see more and more engineers and managers carrying power cables to meeting rooms and we do not have enough ports for all. This much need for carrying power cables never happened in the past. If I can take my MBP to work (not allowed), I do not have to charge till i come back to home. My current Wintel laptop need to be charged twice ( I reach office by 8:30 and leave around 4 ). if I do not plug it in. [B]There are so many in my office who do not want to upgrade to these new Intel based laptops simply because they have horrendous battery life for productivity.[/B] They want to stick to their 5 year old laptops and upgrade battery pack if required. As we are not allowed to use laptop that is out of warranty, we are forced to upgrade. We cannot go to those Evo ultrabooks as they have amazing battery life but are inferior at compiling code, running browser with dozens of tabs etc. This is where ARM comes in as a saviour. You get powerful laptops that are not battery guzzlers. [/QUOTE]
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