In one para : what's wrong with our modern diet.
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Ramp up testing of food products: Delhi HC to FSSAI
“The FSSAI needs to ramp up testing. It is minimal. What sort of products are we eating? We do not know.There is so much pesticide,” the bench said.
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“The FSSAI needs to ramp up testing. It is minimal. What sort of products are we eating? We do not know.There is so much pesticide,” the bench said.
Ramp up testing of food products: Delhi HC to FSSAI
NEW DELHI: The Delhi High Court on Wednesday stressed the need to ramp up testing of food products in the national capital to ascertain their quality, saying th
Looks like either you overlooked the kinetic energy example, or perhaps you are totally unaware of mathematics & physics and its utility in daily life (where you don't actually sit with measuring tapes and stopwatches)?
Anyway, the point for an absolute layman on this thread is that saying "calories intake don't matter" is something that calls for experiment and statistically significant results which none of the LCHF/Keto folks have been able to come up with.
The point where people have fat loss results from LCHF/Keto is always where they have cut down their calories, inadvertently, because following a Keto/LCHF will make you less hungry (you may easily end up feeding once in 3-5 days and not feel hungry). High carbs intake usually results in a yo-yo effect where one can start feeling hungry very soon even though body doesn't require, thus actually increasing the overall calorific intake (leading to piling up of lard).
By the way, NO one I know, has actually followed keto diet or even LCHF properly. The actual low carb theory is supposed to replace carbs with fats. Whereas what we see people doing is replace carbs with proteins. These wise people don't understand that amino acid requirement of body is quite low (less than 100g daily) and all the excess protein that they are eating ends up being converted to sugar.
Nope, first you decide whether measuring has to be done or not.
ICMR Dietary Guidelines 2024 -
Sorry bhai if I offended you. I wasnt laughing at you.
I was laughing at the guidelines as they seem to be completely outdated and wont do any good to the diabetic and obesity epidemic which has been brought on by these same guidelines for past generation now.
Just my opinion. Nothing against you or anyone. Again sorry, if you took offense from my laugh.
Sorry, bhai, but I am actually laughing at your post.
Which of the ICMR advise, you think, causes or aggravates obesity?
Thanks @ibose - it seems like a useful document. @animishticomb - I am not an expert in the area, but this seems useful to me (I am a reasonably fit man). but in case you have credible references to specific points where there is room for improvement in these guidelines, please elaborate.
15 tonnes of fake masala made with wood dust, chemicals, and rotten rice seized - Times of India
Indian savory foods heavily rely on spices like turmeric, coriander, and cumin. Recent bans in Hong Kong and Singapore on MDH and Everest Food Products Pvt. due to ethylene oxide. Delhi Police seized 15 tonnes of fake spices from factories in Karawal Nagar.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
New Zealand Launches Probe Into Indian Spice Brands
New Zealand's food safety authority has launched an investigation into potential contamination in spice products from major Indian brands MDH and Everest amid concerns over elevated levels of the cancer-causing pesticide ethylene oxide. This move follows actions taken by other countries such as...
www.ethostimes.com
How 3M Executives Convinced a Scientist the Forever Chemicals She Found in Human Blood Were Safe
www.propublica.org
A long grievous and chilling read, for those who are interested.
Toxic Gaslighting: How 3M Executives Convinced a Scientist the Forever Chemicals She Found in Human Blood Were Safe
Decades ago, Kris Hansen showed 3M that its PFAS chemicals were in people’s bodies. Her bosses halted her work. As the EPA now forces the removal of the chemicals from drinking water, she wrestles with the secrets that 3M kept from her and the world.
A long grievous and chilling read, for those who are interested.
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Study finds microplastics in blood clots, linking them to higher risk of heart attacks and strokes. Of the 30 thrombi acquired from patients with myocardial infarction, deep vein thrombosis, or ischemic stroke, 24 (80%) contained microplastics.
Honestly though, what are we even going to do about micro plastics? We are churning out endless plastic material on daily basis and the average human doesn't even care one bit. It's starting to get too big a problem to reverse.
Such are humans!How 3M Executives Convinced a Scientist the Forever Chemicals She Found in Human Blood Were Safe
Toxic Gaslighting: How 3M Executives Convinced a Scientist the Forever Chemicals She Found in Human Blood Were Safe
Decades ago, Kris Hansen showed 3M that its PFAS chemicals were in people’s bodies. Her bosses halted her work. As the EPA now forces the removal of the chemicals from drinking water, she wrestles with the secrets that 3M kept from her and the world.
A long grievous and chilling read, for those who are interested.
@rootyme
> It's starting to get too big a problem to reverse.
Looks like this is several times serious a problem than lead in fuel. Probably, it may even change our DNA. Unless society find a solution to mitigate this, world is doing a serious disservice to future generations for which human as any animal live.
> It's starting to get too big a problem to reverse.
Looks like this is several times serious a problem than lead in fuel. Probably, it may even change our DNA. Unless society find a solution to mitigate this, world is doing a serious disservice to future generations for which human as any animal live.
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Do you think we care about future generations? We only care about us, our immediate relations and how to give them competitive edge over plethora of other human beings on this planet. And of course, we don't care about any other life forms on this planet.
Nithin Kamath flags ‘ridiculous’ sugar content, adulteration in food items
Zerodha co-founder Nithin Kamath recently raised the issue of adulteration of food items and the addition of massive amount of sugar in food items h
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Good find @ibose!
Even, 70% of this photo is sugar. LOL.
Asking nutritional advice to an MBBS is like asking driving advice to a 17-year-old Porsche owner.
Doctors (allopathy or alternate medicine types) know laughable little about nutrition. What little they know is mostly misinformation which has been scientifically debunked. It's not something that is taught at their medical school. They should be banned from handing out nutritional advice. They share a good responsibility for aggravating current diabetic and cardiovascular disease pandemics.
How, Dr. Munnabhai ?
Then again asking dietary advice to TE experts be like -
Readers of these "expert" threads, please beware -
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I wholeheartedly agree with you. It's a bad place for asking or giving dietary or medical advice.
BTW, my post wasn't targeted at you personally, in case you thought so. Sorry if you felt that way. I honestly thought you shared the document for lulz. I don't think you are a doctor, but if you are, then take double apologies.
Lovely! I thought you would never ask...
No advice here, but let's analyze that photo from several angles,
1. Most Indians, who are well-off, grew up eating the same diet from the photo. The majority of such 50+ YO are now either diabetic, pre-diabetic or at least cruising at 5%+ hba1c. Many of these people have never stepped inside a hotel, still they got the diabetes.
2. From the looks of it, it's at least 70% sugar (most of its coming from grains).
3. About 80% of calories coming from carbohydrates. Some from fats and negligible from proteins. Whatever happened to keeping these things equal? Most of the human body is protein. When I'm looking at your beautiful eyes and skin @ibose, I'm looking at protein itself. Who will eat to replenish those protein levels? If someone ever had adopted cats or dogs, and fed them paid food, they would notice how nice and shiny their coats become. The same is also true for humans. Indians, who eat little protein, age like Tata indica. 30YO looks like 45YO.
4. Diabetes, by definition, is the allergy to carbohydrates. So why force-feed so much carbohydrates?
5. Another food for thought. About 60-70% of calories are coming from grains in the picture. But in a real regular Indian diet, about 95% of calories come from grains. Can anyone please let me know what animal in the nature eats that much of grain to survive? Most of the grains we eat today are not natural. They are not found in nature. They are rather mutant grade abomination developed in the labs which we dare to call food. Read wheat belly [I love wheat as much as the next guy but man it's beyound mutated like deadpool]
6. Not enough green leafy vegetables in the picture. I don't think anyone will disagree with that observation.
7. Excessive consumption of processed food = bad? Can we at least agree on that? But, has anyone realized, 90%+ of the regular Indian diet = processed food? [No longer talking about the photo] Most people don't know the definition of processed food. They think only McDonald's is the processed food. But, if we have to be right, one will find McDonald's burger is less processed than normal Indian diet. Calorically speaking, 90%+ calories come from roti, rice, and legumes. All of them, by definition, are processed food when they arrive at your kitchen counter-top ready for cooking (except a very few legumes who remain unprocessed until the cooking). If anyone didn't know, wheat = unprocessed, but wheat flour = processed food; brown rice = unprocessed, but white rice = processed food.
8. Another funny angle, compare our top billionaires to billionaires from abroad. I'm sure our billionaires could afford a better diet. Our guy who got Hindenburg last year has an underdeveloped jaw like a child. The jaw remains underdeveloped if all one eats is processed food which is easy to chew and nothing of the real tough natural food.
We could go on and on without even needing to add any research paper to our discussions. BTW, the other side of the coin is also true. India as a country doesn't have enough resources to feed its 1.5B population healthy food. It has a surplus of calories, sure, but those are not the healthier kind. That's just the way it is. It'll remain a privileged thing for the unforeseeable future.
Concluding this only on the basis of the diet in the photo ? All such sweeping generalized statements are fantastic and catchy but do not make any sense unless backed by facts.
The Biggest Diabetes Diet Myths
Navigating your way through the myths surrounding a diabetes-friendly diet can be tricky. Discover what’s fact and what’s fiction.
www.healthline.com
Edit : That link is reviewed by a qualified nutritionist and not a doctor, and moreover not an Indian doctor or nutritionist. I just hope you don't have anything against them as well.
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