Courier insurance

I don't see why used or not matters. You are insuring against a certain value.
It matters because insurance basic principle is that person should not be in profit after receiving insurance. So if a person has used phone which he declares at 10k though in reality it can be bought in used condition for 6k easily & insured it then lost it would effectively be getting a profit of 4k on getting insurance money. That is why outside of new sealed products with proper invoice, no insurance company take/consider any used product with declared value unless they also establish their own value of the used product & obviously this won't be worth the hassle for such things as used iphone.

Even otherwise, the insurance is in the form of their credits and not INR, so you basically get stuck having to use them even more if you lose something.
That's new, would be completely pointless then even in case of new products getting lost & receiving insurance.
 
That's new, would be completely pointless then even in case of new products getting lost & receiving insurance.
Yep, quite pointless.
 

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Yep, quite pointless.
Right Side second point, 99% they will miss either tracking or pick-up scan as it help them to escape. If issue arise, they first prefer to shun you/your claim, if you have some higher level person in their Organization at your side then only there is some hope to get parcel/product back intact.

some time back one of our TE member had order laptop from ... for his office and his colleague get only mouse/cable (no laptop) but after some follow-up/weight proof, he able to established that his employee received just some parts only.
 
Right Side second point, 99% they will miss either tracking or pick-up scan as it help them to escape. If issue arise, they first prefer to shun you/your claim, if you have some higher level person in their Organization at your side then only there is some hope to get parcel/product back intact.

some time back one of our TE member had order laptop from ... for his office and his colleague get only mouse/cable (no laptop) but after some follow-up/weight proof, he able to established that his employee received just some parts only.
Shiprocket is a courier services aggregator so which courier company was used in above example.
 
I don't see why used or not matters. You are insuring against a certain value.

If those are the terms then it's time to find someone else
Imagine someone shipping a gpu that was bought for lakhs and now it's going in thousands in the used market. If one were to claim insurance for it based on the depreciation from invoice value then it'd be a disaster for the insurer.
Thing is that making a successful claim is not an easy process. There is not a lot of info on how well Delhivery Protect works but check the DTDC equivalent. They simply stop responding to claims after some generic initial replies and you will usually have to take this all the way to the consumer court.

In the best scenario, it may work for lost packages but it will never work for in-transit swaps because it becomes a case of you vs them even with recorded videos as they can claim things were swapped after (while sending) or before (after receiving) the recording of the videos. Recording in front of their personnel is not feasible and if you do, you end up indicating to them what the actual content is, making it even more of a target.
I agree, having experienced it first hand with ship rocket It's not worth it. What I don't get is they're scanning it while they're taking it so why can't they just scan it while delivering and see that it's been swapped
 
Shiprocket is a courier services aggregator so which courier company was used in above example.
either aggregator or courier service/company itself, anyone not interested if you face problem and that too like missing articles. No matter how tall/big claim they promise at time of booking & present themselves as Gentlemen.

There is some exception but you must have time & resource (influence too) to fight, as some local point office bearer are really ROUGH GUYS.
 
It matters because insurance basic principle is that person should not be in profit after receiving insurance.
You're talking about people scamming the company. There is always fraud but it's a minority of total business conducted. If that total is large enough the scams are written off as cost of doing business. I'm speaking from a western perspective. Here they tend to be tighter and put people through more hassle. Doesn't mean the option should not be explored whether used or not. In any case the figures covered are small amounts. They won't cover anything more than 50k as one company indicated.

no insurance company take/consider any used product with declared value unless they also establish their own value of the used product & obviously this won't be worth the hassle for such things as used iphone.
Then they will lose business if other companies offer such insurance. What are blue darts policies here. Anyone know?
I was skeptical of shiprocket from the beginning & this made sure I would never use it.
Bingo :happy:
 
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You're talking about people scamming the company. There is always fraud but it's a minority of total business conducted. If that total is large enough the scams are written off as cost of doing business. I'm speaking from a western perspective. Here they tend to be tighter and put people through more hassle. Doesn't mean the option should not be explored whether used or not. In any case the figures covered are small amounts. They won't cover anything more than 50k as one company indicated.
You didn't get it. The "universal legal principle" of insurance is something like "ppl should not be better off than they were before after getting the insurance money". This is followed everywhere in the world when it comes to insurance. Nowhere in the world one can get insurance for a used product only on the basis of their own "declared value".
 
You didn't get it. The "universal legal principle" of insurance is something like "ppl should not be better off than they were before after getting the insurance money". This is followed everywhere in the world when it comes to insurance. Nowhere in the world one can get insurance for a used product only on the basis of their own "declared value".
Fine, so how hard would it be for a courier company to outsource this problem to an insurance company with such a facility?

Have you heard of home insurance. Everything in the house is used isn't it.
 
Fine, so how hard would it be for a courier company to outsource this problem to an insurance company with such a facility?
They can & they probably do when the shipment in question is from a corporate customer with regular shipments & worth lots of money because then it makes sense for the extra hassle. For typical retail customer shipping used products with actual value (aka the price at which that used product can be purchased easily from online/offline) less than few lakhs maybe once-twice in months/years, it is not worth the extra hassle.
 
They can & they probably do when the shipment in question is from a corporate customer with regular shipments & worth lots of money because then it makes sense for the extra hassle. For typical retail customer shipping used products with actual value (aka the price at which that used product can be purchased easily from online/offline) less than few lakhs maybe once-twice in months/years, it is not worth the extra hassle.
They will do it for large amounts but not for small amounts. Looks like the business never heard of shampoo in sachets.

All I'm hearing are excuses and this means insurance has a ways to go before maturing in India. I'm sure there is a lot of profit to be made for a player with deep pockets.
 
you may use other BRAND SERVICE, but you never know if they have tie-up with Shiprocket and forward your parcel with shiprocket.
How does that work if somebody booked a parcel with an actual courier company by visiting their authorized centre like bluedart, dtdc, delhivery etc?
They will do it for large amounts but not for small amounts. Looks like the business never heard of shampoo in sachets.
Insurance business works on "majority subsidising minority" so for health insurance the 60 healthy customers paying policy premium pay for the 40 sick customers paying policy premium. Unless a courier company finds at least enough no. of assured insurance premium payers to cover for the "expected losses" of used products it won't happen.
 
How does that work if somebody booked a parcel with an actual courier company by visiting their authorized centre like bluedart, dtdc, delhivery etc?
I don't think it does unless explicitly booked through Shitrocket. If you're booking with the courier company directly, it's them that handle it entirely.
 
How does that work if somebody booked a parcel with an actual courier company by visiting their authorized centre like bluedart, dtdc, delhivery etc?
Have no such experience with BIG NAMES but small courier service providers doing same since long, even before aggregators. Just like if you book parcel and if they found that their brand office in between route or at end point shutdown or have some temporary delivery boy/person/vehicle issue, than, they opt for such Routing via third party service.
 
Insurance business works on "majority subsidising minority" so for health insurance the 60 healthy customers paying policy premium pay for the 40 sick customers paying policy premium. Unless a courier company finds at least enough no. of assured insurance premium payers to cover for the "expected losses" of used products it won't happen.
A matter of time for a $5tr economy :)
 
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