In one para : what's wrong with our modern diet.
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alluajax
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adulterated turmeric may lead to poisoning, same with ayurvedic preparations which used contaminated raw material in preparation.
similarly lead chromate used to add fake colour in tumeric may degrade health and cause dizziness
overdose is extreme case mentioned here by the doc. even excess caffine is bad for heart, moderation is key, overdose will lead to health conditionMany here don't believe in calorie counting. You'll be fine if you eat to meet your TDEE, maintain vitamin/mineral RDA, and get adequate sleep. The body self-regulates; it needs proper nutrition and rest to heal.
Yes, numerous studies confirm this. It's vital to have annual health checkups and address vitamin deficiencies promptly.
Turmeric has no proven benefits, except as a coloring agent. It's harmful in excess, so I removed it from our kitchen.
Liver Injury Associated with Turmeric-A Growing Problem: Ten Cases from the Drug-Induced Liver Injury Network [DILIN] - PubMed
Liver injury due to turmeric appears to be increasing in the United States, perhaps reflecting usage patterns or increased combination with black pepper. Turmeric causes potentially severe liver injury that is typically hepatocellular, with a latency of 1 to 4 months and strong linkage to...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Emperor
Skilled
Adulteration is BIG problem with every therapy either with Scientifically Proved Allopathy, Ayurvedic, Unani or Homeopathy, but few BABY MIND blame ANY but other than ALLOPATHY .. while THEY systematically avoid deaths by Scenically Proved medicines world wide, because, those Scientifically Proved medicines came with disclaimer that it carry some side effects and for betterment for your current condition you should IGNORE those SIDE EFFECTS (even if it may prove life threatening) and use it .
Here, if possible can any body post the BRAND that made Ayurvedic Cough Syrup that cause loss of precious human life & is there any news about that patient didn't over does it or consume with other medicines or substance that was not suppose to eat/drink while any one on that ayurvedic medicines?
PS: I'm not selling any Ayurveda/Unani or Homeopathy or Allopathy Medicines, neither I'm or my any relative/cousin/friend etc. etc. are directly/indirectly associate (monetary gain) with any pharma company BIG or small.
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Are there any research articles to verify this? Please provide some links to them.
From UK:
"The US typically demands proof that something is harmful, whereas here we are prepared to restrict compounds even if there yet isn't sold proof," he said.
"Don't panic about anything you've done in the past, but if you can avoid them in future that's a prudent thing to do."
Imported US sweets with illegal ingredients seized
Jolly Ranchers and Mountain Dew are advertised on TikTok and Instagram but contain products banned in the UK.
www.bbc.co.uk
"The US typically demands proof that something is harmful, whereas here we are prepared to restrict compounds even if there yet isn't sold proof," he said.
"Don't panic about anything you've done in the past, but if you can avoid them in future that's a prudent thing to do."
Emperor
Skilled
CJI DY Chandrachud inaugurates the AYUSH Holistic Wellness Centre at the Supreme Court premises.
CJI Chandrachud says, "I have been associated with AYUSH since Covid broke. I had a really bad attack of Covid and the Prime Minister called me up and said, 'I believe that you are down with Covid and I hope everything is fine. I realize that you are not in good shape but we'll do everything. There is a vaidya who is also a secretary at AYUSH and I'll arrange a call with him who'll send you medicine.
"I took medicine from AYUSH when I was down with Covid. The 2nd & 3rd times when I had Covid, I didn't take any allopathic medicine at all.
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CJI Chandrachud says, "I have been associated with AYUSH since Covid broke. I had a really bad attack of Covid and the Prime Minister called me up and said, 'I believe that you are down with Covid and I hope everything is fine. I realize that you are not in good shape but we'll do everything. There is a vaidya who is also a secretary at AYUSH and I'll arrange a call with him who'll send you medicine.
"I took medicine from AYUSH when I was down with Covid. The 2nd & 3rd times when I had Covid, I didn't take any allopathic medicine at all.
Read More @Rediff !!!
variablevector
Disciple
I have a strong suspicion that regularly consuming Ayurvedic "medicines" adulterated with heavy metals and other toxic chemicals was what killed someone very, very dear to me. She died from gastric cancer. Her death kind of ruined my life. To say I wouldn't touch an Ayurvedic "medication" with a ten foot pole now is an understatement. If there is a hell (sadly there is not), people who push these medications and particularly those who manufacture them are going straight to it. Not really interested in opening a debate on the topic as I'm tired of engaging in countless ones with my relatives. Just putting my two cents out there for anyone who is also seeing their loved ones abuse these things.
> She died from gastric cancer.
Unfortunate and sad situation.
btw, why she was taking ayurvedic medicine in the first place, was unhealthy earlier ? Misusing herbal medicines is not going to cure chronic ailments, it is common knowledge for average people. (unless for the ilks of Steve Jobs).
Many go with these options by making informed choices, since they don't want to bankrupt their family with debt, cancer is such a horrific decease which have propensity to haunt one's family even after death too.
>Ayurvedic "medicines" adulterated with heavy metals and other toxic chemicals
If you were talking about herbs, all vegetables you eat also may have heavy metals and other toxic chemicals, both grows on same soil...
Unfortunate and sad situation.
btw, why she was taking ayurvedic medicine in the first place, was unhealthy earlier ? Misusing herbal medicines is not going to cure chronic ailments, it is common knowledge for average people. (unless for the ilks of Steve Jobs).
Many go with these options by making informed choices, since they don't want to bankrupt their family with debt, cancer is such a horrific decease which have propensity to haunt one's family even after death too.
>Ayurvedic "medicines" adulterated with heavy metals and other toxic chemicals
If you were talking about herbs, all vegetables you eat also may have heavy metals and other toxic chemicals, both grows on same soil...
variablevector
Disciple
She had a number of chronic diseases that she was treating with ayurvedic medicines, most recently prescribed by an MD Ayurveda "doctor" in my extended family. She had mixed success with ayurveda for many years and was a strong believer in it. It was hard to convince her to do anything else. People in my family thought they were too smart for allopathic doctors. They thought our ancient Indian herbal knowledge was superior to "Western" medicine for most diseases. This is a common thing many Indians, especially those part of the older generation, believe.
Once she was diagnosed with cancer, we never treated it with ayurveda. I brought her to the best doctors in India for cancer. But by then, it was too late. One of the many ways ayurveda/homeopathy/etc hurt people is by making their followers delay diagnosis by real doctors with real diagnostic tools.
Once she was diagnosed with cancer, we never treated it with ayurveda. I brought her to the best doctors in India for cancer. But by then, it was too late. One of the many ways ayurveda/homeopathy/etc hurt people is by making their followers delay diagnosis by real doctors with real diagnostic tools.
> thought they were too smart for allopathic doctors. They thought our ancient Indian herbal knowledge was superior to "Western" medicine for most diseases.
Illogical indeed
But:
> To say I wouldn't touch an Ayurvedic "medication" with a ten foot pole now is an understatement.
I don't mind some amruthanjan, tiger balm. eucalyptus oil, etc. for their intended usage. Illogical misuse /abuse is user's own mistake, not that of product or produce.
btw:
www.technologynetworks.com
Illogical indeed
But:
> To say I wouldn't touch an Ayurvedic "medication" with a ten foot pole now is an understatement.
I don't mind some amruthanjan, tiger balm. eucalyptus oil, etc. for their intended usage. Illogical misuse /abuse is user's own mistake, not that of product or produce.
btw:
Food Emulsifiers Linked to Increased Breast and Prostate Cancer Risk
As if the products’ added salt, sugar and fat levels weren’t damaging enough to our health, a new study has linked the foods’ emulsifiers to higher incidences of certain cancers.
www.technologynetworks.com
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Mr.J
Skilled
Sorry to hear about this.
One thing I want to note is there's no thing called 'Allopathy'.
Allopathic medicine - Wikipedia
Ultra-processed food (UPF) is directly linked to 32 harmful effects to health, including a higher risk of heart disease, cancer, type 2 diabetes, adverse mental health and early death, according to the world’s largest review of its kind.
www.theguardian.com
Ultra-processed food linked to 32 harmful effects to health, review finds
World’s largest review finds direct associations with higher risks of cancer, heart disease and early death
roadrash99
Disciple
In order of importance for health we pretty much know after decades of research that
How much you eat >> Variety in what you eat >> Exercise >>>>>>>>>> What you eat
Unfortunately people don't care about the first 3 because it's too much effort and jump straight to 4th one. We need some superfood/herb/medicine/potion/oil/juice that will solve all our problems. I see people who are 20kg overweight discussing whether white rice or brown rice is superior which is absolutely ridiculous.
People in all parts of the world and of various cultures are able to live healthy, long lives. What we eat doesn't matter that much really.
How much you eat >> Variety in what you eat >> Exercise >>>>>>>>>> What you eat
Unfortunately people don't care about the first 3 because it's too much effort and jump straight to 4th one. We need some superfood/herb/medicine/potion/oil/juice that will solve all our problems. I see people who are 20kg overweight discussing whether white rice or brown rice is superior which is absolutely ridiculous.
People in all parts of the world and of various cultures are able to live healthy, long lives. What we eat doesn't matter that much really.
TinTinSnowy
Adept
Is UPF the real issue here? I doubt. It's obesity and not being able to meet the recommended macro intake. All suggested 32 harmful effects are applicable for obesity as well for people who are not able to get enough nutrition. UPF was never the problem.Ultra-processed food (UPF) is directly linked to 32 harmful effects to health, including a higher risk of heart disease, cancer, type 2 diabetes, adverse mental health and early death, according to the world’s largest review of its kind.
Ultra-processed food linked to 32 harmful effects to health, review finds
World’s largest review finds direct associations with higher risks of cancer, heart disease and early death
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> It's obesity and not being able to meet the recommended macro intake.
Why, probably because of reluctance in accepting:
> Is UPF the real issue here
"academics from Brazil said UPFs were “often chemically manipulated cheap ingredients” and “made palatable and attractive by using combinations of flavours, colours, emulsifiers, thickeners and other additives”.
The findings from the first comprehensive umbrella review of evidence come amid rapidly rising global consumption of UPF such as cereals, protein bars, fizzy drinks, ready meals and fast food.
They added: “It is now time for UN agencies, with member states, to develop and implement a framework convention on ultra-processed foods analogous to the framework on tobacco.”
In some countries, it is young (naive?) and poor those who consume such food:
"In the UK and US, more than half the average diet now consists of ultra-processed food. For some, especially people who are younger, poorer or from disadvantaged areas, a diet comprising as much as 80% UPF is typical."
Why, probably because of reluctance in accepting:
> Is UPF the real issue here
"academics from Brazil said UPFs were “often chemically manipulated cheap ingredients” and “made palatable and attractive by using combinations of flavours, colours, emulsifiers, thickeners and other additives”.
The findings from the first comprehensive umbrella review of evidence come amid rapidly rising global consumption of UPF such as cereals, protein bars, fizzy drinks, ready meals and fast food.
They added: “It is now time for UN agencies, with member states, to develop and implement a framework convention on ultra-processed foods analogous to the framework on tobacco.”
In some countries, it is young (naive?) and poor those who consume such food:
"In the UK and US, more than half the average diet now consists of ultra-processed food. For some, especially people who are younger, poorer or from disadvantaged areas, a diet comprising as much as 80% UPF is typical."
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TinTinSnowy
Adept
That meta-study is junk, just like all the other studies it is based on. How did they all come to the conclusion that ultra-processed foods (UPF) are responsible and not obesity/lack of nutrition? It is safe to assume that most people who eat a lot of UPF have a body fat percentage higher than 15-20% and are not meeting adequate nutrition, as most of these foods are calorically dense but not nutrient-dense.
I eat a lot of UPF, but I still manage to ensure that my body fat percentage is 15% or less and get adequate nutrition, either directly through food or indirectly through multivitamins, meeting the recommended dietary intake for most of the vitamins and minerals outlined by the USA National Institutes of Health.
Another factor that these studies fail to consider is alcohol and other addictive substance use, which can cause harm. In most of these studies, subjects cannot be controlled, and they may not be truthful about what they consume.
I eat a lot of UPF, but I still manage to ensure that my body fat percentage is 15% or less and get adequate nutrition, either directly through food or indirectly through multivitamins, meeting the recommended dietary intake for most of the vitamins and minerals outlined by the USA National Institutes of Health.
Another factor that these studies fail to consider is alcohol and other addictive substance use, which can cause harm. In most of these studies, subjects cannot be controlled, and they may not be truthful about what they consume.
AINDRASIS_GUPTA
Disciple
Saying a particular study is junk out of thin air just because it does not suit your perspectives as you tend to rely on them (in this case UPF), is pretty disrespectful to the thousands of doctors and scientists who have said the same. It's like asking to reason with an alcoholic or a smoker on why they are bad for you.
UPF, obesity, or lack of nutrition - all of these are not mutually exclusive - as the study clearly stated that UPF increase the risks - not the end-all-be-all reason.
TinTinSnowy
Adept
"Overall, using the GRADE framework, 22 pooled analyses were rated as low quality, with 19 rated as very low quality and four rated as moderate quality."