Upgrading after 5 long years- advice!

**MohitPreet** · 25-11-09, 02:42 PM

1. Q: What is your budget?

1. 8-10k

2. Q: What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)

1. CPU - AMD Sempron 2400+ @1.67Ghz

2. Motherboard - gigabyte 7vm series

3. GPU -none

4. RAM - 512mb ddr1 , dont know wat brand it was

5. Monitor - LG Studioworks 15" Crt

6. SMPS - some local made , dont know which one

7. Cabinet - also some basic very old one- dont know

3. Q: Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)

1. Monitor

2. SMPS

3. Cabinet

4. Q: Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.

1. CPU - Intel or Amd

2. Motherboard - any compatible motherboard

3. RAm - REQ minimum 2gb

4. GPU - None onboard wud bejust enough

5. nothing else upgarding as of now rest i ll keep

5. Q: Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component

1. Yes, i will not require any further upgarde for 4-5 years atleast

2. SMPS - may buy a smps later like the basic corsair 400

3. Cabinet - none i think my older one shud suffice

6. Q: Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)

1. local

2. Open to online purchase/ TE dealer as well

7. Q: Would you consider buying a second hand hardware from the TE market

1. no

8. Q: What is your intended use for this PC/hardware

1. Gaming- very little almost none

2. Browsing

3. Desktop Processing

4. HTPC

5. Download rig, 24x7 operation

6. Watching HD movies

9. Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.

any good intel/amd kit wud suffice

10. Q: If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?

none

11. Q: What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage

1. Desktop - 1280x728

12. Q: Are you looking to overclock?

1. No- not as of now but wud be good if its overclockable easily

13. Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?

win xp

or win 7

**DarkAngel** · 25-11-09, 04:06 PM

Processor: AMD AthlonII X2-240 - 3k

Motherboard: Biostar A785GE - 3.3k(HD 4200 is a very good IGP. Plays HD with eaze and directX 10.1 complaint)

RAM: Transcend 2GB DDR2 800MHz - 2.1k

I think this would be pretty much sufficient for your needs

If you feel you need DRRIII, then

Processor: AMD AthlonII X2-240 - 3k

MSI 785GM-E51 - 4.6k AM3 DDR3

RAM: Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz - 2.6k

**satyanjoy** · 25-11-09, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Karthi007

Processor: AMD AthlonII X2-240 - 3k

Motherboard: Biostar A785GE - 3.3k(HD 4200 is a very good IGP. Plays HD with eaze and directX 10.1 complaint)

RAM: Transcend 2GB DDR2 800MHz - 2.1k

I think this would be pretty much sufficient for your needs

If you feel you need DRRIII, then

Processor: AMD AthlonII X2-240 - 3k

MSI 785GM-E51 - 4.6k AM3 DDR3

RAM: Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz - 2.6k

+1 good selection karthi007

**Gaurish** · 25-11-09, 04:13 PM

Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz @ 3k

MSI 785GM-E51 AM3 DDR3 @ 4.6k

2GB Transcend DDR 3 -1333 MHZ @2.6k

Gigabyte Superb 460w @ 2.1k

Onboard graphics are ATI 4200 which are powerfull enough to take care of your requirements. the Mobo is DDR3, so future RAM upgrades won't be costly like hell.the CPU has enough juice for your requirements. if you want something more powerfull you can change it with Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.3k.

PS: you won't be able to use your 5yr old PSU because newer mobo has 24pin connector, while your PSU might have only 20pin.

{edit}

@Karthi

Saw your post.you beat me into this

**MohitPreet** · 25-11-09, 04:21 PM

yes the older psu has 20 pin only

i nned to change that as well . i just noticed!

i think i dont need ddr3 config 2gb DDR2 wud be more than enough

i m currently using 512mb since 5 years ,

the current rig is still good enough for my requirements and i dont think my requiremnts r going to change in next 5 years , i m upgrading just because my rig is too old , and i want to sell it and get some moolah before it dies

i just feel my pc slows down quite a bit while using multiple tabs on firefox

and my mobo has no sata port , need that to buy 1TB HDD

i think amd x2-240 with biostar 758GE mobo wud be good enough

and i heard there r few problems with that mobo -- any issues ?? , i read it somewher at TE only i guess i dont remember exact!!

**prostylein** · 25-11-09, 04:23 PM

8k-10k in this range you get low performance PC

If you purchase this following requirement you will get a high performance PC with feature Upgradeable

CPU Intel core2duo E7500(2.93GHz,3Mb L2cache,1066MHz FSB) in 5k

Motherboard Intel =DG43GT in 5.3k

Form factor MicroATX (9.60 inches by 9.60 inches)

Processor

View supported processors for the most current list of compatible processors. At product launch, this desktop board supports:

* Intel® Core™2 Quad processor (95W TDP) in an LGA775 socket

* Intel® Core™2 Duo processor in an LGA775 socket

* Intel® Pentium® processor in an LGA775 socket

* Intel® Celeron® processor in an LGA775 socket

Memory

* Four 240-pin DDR2 SDRAM Dual Inline Memory Module (DIMM) sockets

* Support for DDR2 800 MHz, or DDR2 667 MHz DIMMs

* Support for up to 16 GBΣ of system memory

Chipset Intel® G43 Express Chipset

Audio

Intel® High Definition Audio subsystem in the following configuration:

* 10-channel (7.1+ 2 independent multi-streaming) audio subsystem with five analog audio outputs and one optical S/PDIF digital audio output using the Realtek ALC888S* audio codec

Video Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500 integrated graphics subsystem

I/O control Legacy I/O controller for serial header, parallel header, and PS/2* ports

LAN support Gigabit (10/100/1000 Mbits/sec) LAN subsystem using the Intel® 82567V Gigabit Ethernet Controller

Peripheral interfaces

* Twelve USB 2.0 ports

* One serial port header

* Four Serial ATA 3.0 Gb/s ports

* Two IEEE 1394a ports (1 external port, 1 internal header)

* One parallel ATA IDE port with UDMA 33,66,100 support

* PS/2 port: Supports keyboard or mouse

Expansion capabilities

* One PCI Express* 2.0x16 bus add-in card connector

* Two PCI Express x1 connectors

* One PCI Conventional* bus connector

Related products

Processors

* Intel® Core™2 Quad processor

* Intel® Core™2 Duo processor

* Intel® Pentium® processor

* Intel® Celeron® processor

Chipsets

* Intel® G43 Express Chipset

Ram Kingston 2Gb 800MHz in 1.5k

For more information and software visit to www.prostylepc.webs.com

**DarkAngel** · 25-11-09, 04:27 PM

@Gaurish-

I dont think you need a Gigabyte 460w. A zebby Pro 350w~1.5k or a SagaII 350w~1.6k will do the trick and ya 2Gb of any RAM would be surplus for a basic PC.

**MohitPreet** · 25-11-09, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Karthi007

Processor: AMD AthlonII X2-240 - 3k

Motherboard: Biostar A785GE - 3.3k(HD 4200 is a very good IGP. Plays HD with eaze and directX 10.1 complaint)

RAM: Transcend 2GB DDR2 800MHz - 2.1k

I think this would be pretty much sufficient for your needs

exactly wat i was looking for

may be the ram can be changed to corsair 2gb wat say?

and can i use 2 os on this setup winxp and win 7 ?

@prostylein: i dont know from where u copied all that stuff

but i really dont need that much performance when i ll not be able to use it

i just need wat karthi had suggested!

hey any issues with that biostar mobo and can that x240@2.8ghz be overclocked easily!!

little bit overclocking in the future wud be good

**DarkAngel** · 25-11-09, 04:38 PM

i) Ya, especially as corsair RAM's carry a 10-yr warranty(considering you keep the rig for 5 years).

ii)Till now not much negative comments about the motherboard in TE. Only issue is availability. A.S.S. from abacus peripherals(Biostar distributors) also seems to pretty ok.

iii)Ya we OC it easily esp. with so much guides around but it doesnt OC as much as the E5200.

**hotshot05** · 25-11-09, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by MohitPreet

yes the older psu has 20 pin only

i nned to change that as well . i just noticed!

i think i dont need ddr3 config 2gb DDR2 wud be more than enough

i m currently using 512mb since 5 years ,

the current rig is still good enough for my requirements and i dont think my requiremnts r going to change in next 5 years , i m upgrading just because my rig is too old , and i want to sell it and get some moolah before it dies

i just feel my pc slows down quite a bit while using multiple tabs on firefox

and my mobo has no sata port , need that to buy 1TB HDD

i think amd x2-240 with biostar 758GE mobo wud be good enough

and i heard there r few problems with that mobo -- any issues ?? , i read it somewher at TE only i guess i dont remember exact!!

Off Topic

I think your PC may be slowing down while using Firefox due to the old processor.

See this article: Firefox: Heat and the CPU usage problem | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News

Why dont you try out Opera?

I agree that you wont get the add-ons but at least your PC remains zippy.

**Rockfella** · 25-11-09, 06:12 PM

2GB DDR3 is Rs. 2.6k? :S in that case DDR3 makes sense along with a new PSU definitely.

Originally Posted by Gaurish

Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz @ 3k

MSI 785GM-E51 AM3 DDR3 @ 4.6k

2GB Transcend DDR 3 -1333 MHZ @2.6k

Gigabyte Superb 460w @ 2.1k

Onboard graphics are ATI 4200 which are powerfull enough to take care of your requirements. the Mobo is DDR3, so future RAM upgrades won't be costly like hell.the CPU has enough juice for your requirements. if you want something more powerfull you can change it with Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.3k.

PS: you won't be able to use your 5yr old PSU because newer mobo has 24pin connector, while your PSU might have only 20pin.

{edit}

@Karthi

Saw your post.you beat me into this

**Gaurish** · 25-11-09, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Rockfella

2GB DDR3 is Rs. 2.6k? :S in that case DDR3 makes sense along with a new PSU definitely.

This quote is from http://www.deltapage.com/

But yes, gap between DDR2 and DDR3 is narrowed to few hundred rupees now. It due to huge increase in DDR2 prices and gradual decrease in DDR3 price.

I am guess, they would ends would meet very soon and the story might change altogether

**MohitPreet** · 25-11-09, 07:00 PM

but how much diff does DDR2 or DDR3 make in performance!

even if ddr3 cost 2.6 k , i ll have o buy a ddr3 compatible mobo as well which is also 1k higher than the normal one

so total increase in cost wud be ~1.6 k- 1.8k!

is that worth viz a viz performance gain considering that i wont be running much core related applications or processes

**Audiophi1le** · 25-11-09, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by MohitPreet

but how much diff does DDR2 or DDR3 make in performance!

even if ddr3 cost 2.6 k , i ll have o buy a ddr3 compatible mobo as well which is also 1k higher than the normal one

so total increase in cost wud be ~1.6 k- 1.8k!

is that worth viz a viz performance gain considering that i wont be running much core related applications or processes

Stick with DDR3......get the cheapest ram now. upgrade whne prices of DDR3 fall.

DDR2 prices will surely go up and will get outdated. SO its better to buy a future proof PC.

And any1 mentioned Opera? its damn fast.........has got lot of features and addons too

**MohitPreet** · 26-11-09, 06:55 AM

ey i have decided to get intel e5300 and gigabyte g-31 mobo with 2 gb transced ram

it has good overclock potential and i also heard its good rig for 24/7 torrents as its power saving than the amd one some cpu utiliazation funda - somebody told me

i m a complete noob

will add a dedicated gpu later for hdmi support

will help me to save some money as of now

why invest 8k on amd and biostar mobo when i get almost same from 6k intel e5300+ g31 kit

wat do u have to say on that

is it good enough for my needs

planning to save money to get CM 310 or 334 cabby as well

final call will start ordering things from today or tomorrow itself!!

comeone help me

one major upgrade for me after 5 years , for the next 5 years!

**SidhuScorpion** · 26-11-09, 01:43 PM

IMHO E5300 is overkill, used E21XX @ 1.8-2k~ is good VFM.

CM Elite 334 is POS @ 2.4k, bundled fans are leaf blowers. U will regret buying Elite 33X + better fans over stock Antec 300 (3.8k).

CM 310 @ 1.6k or Zebronics Bijli is the best bet.

**Rockfella** · 26-11-09, 01:57 PM

He is getting Giga G31 LGA 775 + E5300 + Seagate HDD Locally and Transcend 2GB ram (P) from Ebay but buying generic Rs. 400 psu locally. I can't convince him anymore. This looks good, despite LGA's dying repu...

Originally Posted by SidhuPunjab

IMHO E5300 is overkill, used E21XX @ 1.8-2k~ is good VFM.

CM Elite 334 is POS @ 2.4k, bundled fans are leaf blowers. U will regret buying Elite 33X + better fans over stock Antec 300 (3.8k).

CM 310 @ 1.6k or Zebronics Bijli is the best bet.

**MohitPreet** · 26-11-09, 03:23 PM

i cant spend 2-3k on a psu yaar , i ll upgrade when i buy a gpu later but not as of now

and also getting the cm elite 310 for 1700

**Rockfella** · 26-11-09, 03:59 PM

U can spend u don't want to spend

Buy this from here:

Gigabyte Superb 460W SMPS GE-R460-V1

Originally Posted by MohitPreet

i cant spend 2-3k on a psu yaar , i ll upgrade when i buy a gpu later but not as of now

and also getting the cm elite 310 for 1700

**Gaurish** · 26-11-09, 06:06 PM

Looks like you have similar needs like me:

http://www.techenclave.com/pc-periph...de-145416.html

http://www.techenclave.com/pc-periph...-146470-2.html

I know you are on a low budget but Still I would suggest you to go for a 80 plus efficiency PSU. if you want to save, save on cabby. buy any generic cabinet which is big and has proper air flow.