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22 Nov 09, 01:04 AM
|  | Bugger off!!!! | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Age: 28
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| | Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought Well I never really touched anything other than MX2 or AS5 in last few years and they never gave me any problems.
But finally came the time when I ran out of both MX2 and AS5 and it was not available anywhere locally.
So I placed order for MX3, but as I had removed the heatsink for cleanup, I needed something.
I had TX2 which came with my CCF.
And NH1 which came with my Noctua.
So I used NH1 on both CPU and my newly bought 5870 ( I had opened that up as well for pics after initial benching ).
Everything seemed fine, and then suddenly my Max OC on my GFX card dropped. And temps on CPU also were running high after just couple of days.
Removed heatsink again and was amazed to see that the paste on 5870 was bone dry with island pattern on the GPU with part of core with no thermal paste left as it had all dried up.
CPU was in similar shape.
So from the looks of it NH1 needs larger quantity and usual thin film didnt work.
So this time I applied TX2.
CPU was fine, but running slightly warmer than it was on MX2, but again my max oc dropped on GFX card after couple of days.
And this was compared to stock paste that ATI used on the card.
I decided to tide it over at stock speeds as it wasnt really getting too hot at the stock speed.
SO finally today I got MX3 and I opened up the 5870 again, and TX2 was again in bad shape. It was all dry, but still better than NH1.
Applied MX3 today and card is again happy to do 1Ghz+ core with huge drop in idle and max temps.
We all thought TX2 was good enough, well it does not look like ideal thing for GPUs at least.
So just a heads up for guys out there.
And it would have been hard to diagnose if I hadn't opened up the card. The card temps were still in check, but PC used to lock up at 1Ghz core clock with TX2 and NH1.
My guess is that part of the core was not transferring the heat properly and thats why it was locking up or freezing even with temps in control.
Last edited by Shripad; 22 Nov 09 at 01:28 AM.
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22 Nov 09, 01:22 AM
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought thx for the info i am planning to buy tx2, but now i can also think for mx3 | 
22 Nov 09, 08:44 AM
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought Try Thermalrights Chillfactor 2 as well, I've had good luck with it | 
22 Nov 09, 08:57 AM
|  | Chakalaka xD ! | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: navi mumbai Age: 20
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought Shripad even Ive noticed that the TX-2 doesn't really work well for GPUs. The temps of my Q6600 on idle/load are really good with the CCF. 35-38 deg C. on idle and max 47-50 deg C. on load but my HD 4850 dual slot runs at 47-50 deg even on idle conditions after I applied the TX-2 on it. (everything's @ stock /fan speed auto-27-30%) After reading your post ,now i feel like removing the heatsink and checking the card if the thermal paste has dried up.
How much does the MX-3 cost ?Is it available locally ? | 
22 Nov 09, 09:33 AM
|  | Bugger off!!!! | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Age: 28
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought Nope MX3 is not available locally.
It was listed on Yantra online, but something is broken on their site and I cant do CC payment. Also its 900+ bucks there
So I ended up ordering it from Arctic cooling international store which sells it at MRP which is damn expensive. (1k+ per tube for MX3 from them sheesh )
But now you can import it from sites like sidewindercomputers. But they come through USPS which can be real PITA.
One of my friend ordered 30gm tube of MX2 and it came after a month and was charged 780bucks duty 
Might start a GO for thermal compounds after poster GO is over. | 
22 Nov 09, 10:03 AM
|  | Stig's Indian Cousin | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mumbai/Ahmedabad Age: 23
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought gelid sold by amarbir is pretty good too...........check out its reviews --- gc1 or something they call it.
i have tx-2 and i have applied it below every heatsink in my system---cpu/chipset/gpu. | 
22 Nov 09, 10:06 AM
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought tx-2 works very nicely for me.. never had any problems | 
22 Nov 09, 10:42 AM
|  | Aravind | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kottayam, Kerala
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought I was thinking TX2 was one of the best. Even reviews says so. SO it dries up quickly, leaving the thing useless
Shripad, how is AS5 compared to MX3 ?
And is thermalright compound any good ? | 
22 Nov 09, 10:45 AM
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought Quote: |
We all thought TX2 was good enough
| It's garbage, actually. I ran out of MX-2 and am using the TX-2 tube that came with my CCF, and I see temp rises a couple of degrees all around. Luckily we're at winter (ambient is ~18 degrees in the house) so it doesn't affect me that badly, but come summer and I'm back to AS5 or MX-2/3/something a little better than lizard poo. | 
22 Nov 09, 11:09 AM
|  | Aravind | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kottayam, Kerala
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought Whats the cost of MX2?
already got AS5, and isnt satisfied with it. | 
22 Nov 09, 11:31 PM
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought my vanilla HD4850 did not used to go above 685MHz on core with stock paste but now it can go 700MHz easily with TX2 which i had applied 6months ago.
did not try above that since ccc doesnt allow anymore. | 
22 Nov 09, 11:45 PM
|  | Aravind | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kottayam, Kerala
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought So, do u think TX2 is better than stock one atleast ?
ive applied the same on my old 8800GT dual slot. temps are more or less the same, maybe some 2c less. | 
23 Nov 09, 12:21 AM
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought Quote:
Originally Posted by dOm1naTOr Whats the cost of MX2?
already got AS5, and isnt satisfied with it. | MX2 costs about 350 per tube. AS5 if used, should be used carefully - Quote:
Not Electrically Conductive:
Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)
| Arctic Silver Incorporated - Arctic Silver 5 | 
23 Nov 09, 09:18 AM
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought I found OCZ Freeze to do a good job. I guess it's a bit thicker than the rest, but cools the CPU nicely. Haven't tried on a GPU though. | 
23 Nov 09, 11:06 AM
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| | Re: Thermal compounds, much more to it than we thought hmm I think TF-400 from coolermaster is good too |
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