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Let me try again,

Are there any apps you use, that work better with compiz than over the std windows enviroment ?

Would you say that its easier, more productive to go with compiz than whatever the std is, Gnome, KDE etc ?..i guess the answer to this will take time as we see how Compiz is accepted by the masses, will it replace the previous 2 or not.

What i'm really getting at is how much of an improvment is Compiz over the others ?

So far i only read the word 'fun' and if thats the aim then fine. You will have a small community of hard core supporters and it will remain at that.

As far as performance goes i will assume the hardware specs for a machine that can do compiz is similar to one that can do whatever is the state of art in windows or the Mac.

When i mentioned multi-monitor's i meant that instead of having a massive desktop with one monitor, ppl prefer to use more than just one. By this i mean more ppl have chosen to augment with hardware rather than just software. That having a second monitor provides a tangible benefit over the former. They have not opted for a different metaphor, merely augmented the old tried & tested.

Maybe an example will make this more clear, take a look at this

As a new method of working with images, i can say that its the best i've seen to date and shows a lot of promise.

It can feel its an improvement over the current ways and it only took a cpl of minutes to reach that conclusion

Here's another, tho it requires extra hardware.


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1. All applications work flawlessly with Compiz..

2. Compiz can never replace KDE and Gnome , as it uses DE's as its base to provide desktop effects..

3.Compiz is improving in stability and performance and plugins but its not as fast developing as DE's..

4. Forget about that can a 256Mb Ram based PC can even install VISTA or Mac OSX ? Running effects is a different matter.

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Darky, pl include this guide in ur siggy as well;

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1. All applications work flawlessly with Compiz..
Java Swing applications frequently give trouble with compiz. There are workarounds and it has reportedly been fixed but I cannot run Swing apps without the workarounds yet because I haven't updated java in 6 months or more. Movie players sometimes give bad performance on compiz if the graphics card is not totally compatible with compiz or it is not properly configured.

But most applications will run fine.

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2. Compiz can never replace KDE and Gnome , as it uses DE's as its base to provide desktop effects..
compiz can run without KDE or Gnome. It is like any other window manager (fvwm, icewm, fluxbox). I am posting this from such a setup. Compiz does not need Gnome or KDE at all.


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^^Huh you didn't get the point.. Compiz needs a DE all those you mentioned are Lightweight DE .. Its just an enhancement .. Not itself a Desktop Env.

Edit : Video does create a few problem but it gets sorted out after you enable Video plugin for Compiz Settings Manager Considering proper setup of VGA..


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^^Huh you didn't get the point.. Compiz needs a DE all those you mentioned are Lightweight DE .. Its just an enhancement .. Not itself a Desktop Env.

Edit : Video does create a few problem but it gets sorted out after you enable Video plugin for Compiz Settings Manager Considering proper setup of VGA..
No, they are not lightweight DEs. They are window managers. I said that compiz is "like" them. Not that compiz needs them, or it runs along with them.

Let me restate: Compiz does not need any other window manager/DE to function. i.e. uninstall Gnome, KDE, fluxbox, icewm, fvwm, all other window managers and DEs. Only install compiz-fusion. It will run without much loss of functionality.

To run compiz without DE in fedora, create a file /usr/share/xsessions/compizfusion.desktop. Add the following information in it.
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[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
# This is the name you'll see for the session in gdm
Name=CompizFusion
Comment=Compiz Fusion Without any DE
Exec=/usr/local/bin/compiz-fusion.sh
Type=Application
Now create a file called /usr/local/bin/compiz-fusion.sh. Fill the following in it
Code:
#!/bin/bash
fusion-icon
Give it execute permission. You will see an additional option in gdm now. Selecting it will NOT run Gnome/KDE. It will run only Compiz-Fusion. Without any other window manager or DE to assist it.

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Is there any guy?? whose Linux did not crashed with compiz and 3d effects enabled since 7 days of continues use.

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hey ppl ! compiz and other 3D wm are for Xorg(X windows system) with AIGLX/XGL enabled.

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Is there any guy?? whose Linux did not crashed with compiz and 3d effects enabled since 7 days of continues use.
I know what you mean. Sometimes it crashes in the beginning. But then you search the internet for solutions, or try to fix it yourself. Sometimes you have to sacrifice some features, sometimes sacrifice performance, sometimes everything works perfectly with slight effort. Then it works for years without crashing. My experience.

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I know what you mean. Sometimes it crashes in the beginning. But then you search the internet for solutions, or try to fix it yourself. Sometimes you have to sacrifice some features, sometimes sacrifice performance, sometimes everything works perfectly with slight effort. Then it works for years without crashing. My experience.
My past experience is not good in Linux. Tried many distributions well will try to get it stable, by getting help from here and there


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WOW! My linux view has changed after seeing this!

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cant wait to go back to linux after seeing the eye candy here. I only need to make some space in my hdd to install one of distros. btw, just wanted to know if ubuntu 8.10 has compiz built-in? or any new distro containing this shipped with some tech mag? else hv to dnld thru trnts.

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Post a new thread regarding suggestion Get Mandriva Spring btw Ubuntu 8.10 will be released in October.. Ubuntu 8.04.1 has Compiz..

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