[prakashan]

I have fedora 10 64-bit installed for some days now.the fcuking thing needs a lot of uninstall and with gnome-package-kit(yumex sucks!) I removed NetworkManager etc(remember Fedora package are case SeNsitive) and bash completion failed to find all packages installed.awright ,figured out with yum.they did a great thing with rpmfusion.

with yum update ,I have to press CTRL+C sometimes with repo(esp india madras IIT Fedora mirror is dead) to continue update.
Overall ,nice package -but Ubuntu ..OK yaar I won't bring Ubuntu/Debian name AGAIN!

[vishalrao]

That reminds me, is there any way to make Fedora yumwhatever stick to a single mirror and not do its auto mirror scanning during package installation/updates? that annoys me.

I am planning on installing F11 beta when it comes out to check out the cool plymouth/nuoveau bling and virt manager. Ubuntu Jaunty is stable and getting boring now

[prakashan]

^ It is possible.but you have to bear the pain of adding baseurl=http://path/to/the/repo format in every /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-xx.repo files I won't be doing that.instead ,I installed this :

yum -y install yum-fastestmirror

some of the yum plugins are pure crap that if you got yumex installed ,it can't execute.buggy sh1t. there goes Deb...(No I stopped -I am controlling.. )

[vishalrao]

Originally Posted by Dark Star

^^I beg to differ.. Yes debian is good and ubuntu too.. But there are other distro much better than Ubuntu..

Its what money and advert.. making it popular

Check out the marketing machine behind Fedora: http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1437

also: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points

[vishalrao]

Too lazy to go searching whether a thread for this already exists, so posting here:

=== What Happened Last Summer? ===

Paul W. Frields broke radio silence to provide[1] a detailed explanation of last August's (2008-08-12) security problem. Briefly, a Fedora Project systems administrator used a pass-phraseless SSH key. This was copied from the administrator's machine and used to gain access to Fedora infrastructure. Subsequently trojaned versions of OpenSSH and rpm were built and deployed on Fedora infrastructure. The investigation concludes that these packages were detected and removed before any rpms were built with them or distributed to Fedora users. The full, detailed communication includes a time-line.

1.
Update and Report on Fedora August 2008 Intrusion

[vishalrao]

And in the same weekly news email:

=== Fedora has the Most New Features ===

In another example of Fedora leading the way, a comparison of the Fedora 11 and an upcoming similiar distribution's release shows that Fedora has the lion's share of new features.[3]

1.
Meeting:Marketing meeting 2009-03-24 - FedoraProject
2.
Fedora Twitter & Identica
3.
Ubuntu 9.04 vs Fedora 11: A lot can change in one month!


edit: The Fedora 11 Beta should be out later today... can't wait to try KMS/Plymouth/nouveau on my 8800GT

[Dark Star]

Fedora 11 beta is out https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedor..._release_notes

[vishalrao]

Just now started downloading Live CDs of GNOME and KDE, can't wait to check them out tomorrow morning

As always, you gotta read the known issues in the release notes to take care...

[Dark Star]

^^Doesn't look too good .. But new Nouveau looks good

[vishalrao]

Tried it this morning... nothing great about this version, the "greek island" wallpaper is cool and thats about it

KMS/Plymouth works (for my gfx card) when you add nouveau.modeset=1 to the live kernel boot options even though it claims the option is unknown. The boot looks pretty but a little flickering/perf issue when switching to X desktop.

Again was reminded of the slow and inefficient packaging system, very slow downloading of package lists and the delta-rpm thing will turn out to be a scam anyways im sure. Ubuntu is unbeatable here.

Default apps suck (AbiWord instead of OpenOffice) and the KDE version is also ordinary.

Will try it once again when the next preview release is out.

[Dark Star]

Its out Preview of F11

[vishalrao]

I guess this is the version with which Linus Torvalds will switch back to KDE.... He went to GNOME too soon

[vishalrao]

Free media for LUGs: Free Fedora 11 Media for Indian LUGs. The Diary of a Nobody

Keeping the demand in mind and to ensure easy availability, we have arranged for Master copies of Fedora 11 for Indian LUGs (without any charge).

I guess only Ubuntu and Fedora are in a race to spread their distros via freebies though Fedora has a bigger marketing machine...

[Gaurish]

If anyone is in Jaipur, we can come to our LUG-Jaipur Meet. we would having a release party as time of F11 launch. you can also get freebies like Free Media/Stickers/Taboos etc

More here: Linux User Group Jaipur - LUG-Jaipur

[vishalrao]

Yet another example of Fedora members whining about Ubuntu's popularity... jealous bastids!

See a survey which shows Ubuntu with a massive lead: UsabilityProject/UsabilityTests/GnomeGeneralResearch - GNOME Live! (got to scroll down to find it)

And a Fedora blogger whining about it too knurd: Unprofessional

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