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Old 16 Nov 09, 07:35 PM
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This thread looks like is completely gone astray topic but ..... Spekter I am sure by now your quite confused.

Would recommend that you do the following -
1. Confirm what use your going to put the system to. What you mention is a bit vague.
2. What do you mean when you say you work in "Graphics and Film"? Are you doing any kind of editing / Photoshop etc?
3. Are you stuck on the i5 or i7? Even a Core 2 would work out with your requirements and not end up purging your wallet.
4. You give the guys here a budget of 100K and even that could be met! VFM!!!! You need to link points 1, 2 and 3 together.

Your probably going to get a number of different opinions on what to buy, so based on the suggestions made by the forum members would recommend a bit of reading up to best decide in the end.

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Old 16 Nov 09, 08:51 PM
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@Anubis,
I think rajan meant that spekter would not possibly be playing at full hd,
4670 can pull off acceptable fps,at high on 1280 *1024 and 1440 * 900.
I think his occasional gaming needs would be satisfied..

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Old 16 Nov 09, 09:01 PM
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@Anubis,
I think rajan meant that spekter would not possibly be playing at full hd,
4670 can pull off acceptable fps,at high on 1280 *1024 and 1440 * 900.
I think his occasional gaming needs would be satisfied..

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I know rajan meant that spekter would not possibly be playing at full hd but what if wanted to ?

Just for 2k won't it be a waste not to take Ati 4850 ?

Sorry to rajan1311 and anyone whom i have offended with my harsh comments.

P.S. : Mods,Administrator don't give an infraction to me for spamming.
I just wanted to say sorry in front of everyone to anyone specially rajan1311 whom i hurt ?

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Old 16 Nov 09, 09:50 PM
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Okay..firstly...thank you everyone for your very valued inputs and comments!!

Secondly,being absolutely hardware illiterate and a noob,honestly I did get rather confused as DarkNight pointed out.

Let me once again state my requirements and other things that I'm keen to incorporate into the rig :

1.NO PLAN of buying a comp again within the next 4 years...hence i5.[Budget not permitting an i7.]

2.Requirements are basic animation. (MAYA and Photoshop-'ing',gaming occasionally,everyday usage and surfing..)
I DO NOT need a very high-end rig or a graphic card I know.
But keeping in mind my plan about using the comp for a long time to come..I'd want it to be 'futureproof' hence the initial plan of a DX11 card.But being cautious because of it being relatively new technology..plus prices seem too high.

3.Understand NOTHING about computer hardware...hence do not go in for upgrades because it involves getting a technician to tamper with set configuration again.

Keeping this in mind,

This is what I've narrowed down the list to :

Cpu - Intel core i5-750 (2.66Ghz)

Mobo - Msi P55 GD 65

Ram - Transcend 2x2gb 1333mhz ddr3 - 5.2k

HDD - WD 1TB

Optical drive - Samsung DVD writer - 1.1k

Graphics card - Powercolor or sappire Ati 4850 [Need a temporary and affordable option that'll support a 24" full HD display for games and HD Movies until DX11 cards are out and the prices stabilise.]

Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 334 or if there is a slight surplus in resources a CM Scout Storm.

SMPS - GlacialPower 650W - 4.6k / Corsair VX 550 - 5.5k [Keeping in mind DX11 card to be taken later...don't want to change SMPS again for the card.]

Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper TX3 - 1.3k

UPS : APC 1000 VA - 6.3k

Phew!

Would be very grateful to receive your inputs/feedback/suggestions and options..

Thanks for all your patience and hearing me out again,
Spekter.

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Old 16 Nov 09, 09:55 PM
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Since most of the dust has cleared up now, i would like to point out that the Core i5 build by Anubis is pretty good considering the OPs budget.

Any thing that Spekter needs to edit or change imo from that config would be

1. Bigger Hdd if needed as since the OP deads in graphics/film. A 1 tb sounds better here then.
2. Graphics card can be downsized to a 4670 if not that much into gaming or want to cut down budget.
3. Go with a 650VA if dont need a lot of UPS backup.

Finally all this boils down to Spekter's personal requirements.

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This is what I've narrowed down the list to :

Cpu - Intel core i5-750 (2.66Ghz)

Mobo - Msi P55 GD 65

Ram - Transcend 2x2gb 1333mhz ddr3 - 5.2k

HDD - WD 1TB

Optical drive - Samsung DVD writer - 1.1k

Graphics card - Powercolor or sappire Ati 4850 [Need a temporary and affordable option that'll support a 24" full HD display for games and HD Movies until DX11 cards are out and the prices stabilise.]

Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 334 or if there is a slight surplus in resources a CM Scout Storm.

SMPS - GlacialPower 650W - 4.6k / Corsair VX 550 - 5.5k [Keeping in mind DX11 card to be taken later...don't want to change SMPS again for the card.]

Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper TX3 - 1.3k

UPS : APC 1000 VA - 6.3k

Phew!

Would be very grateful to receive your inputs/feedback/suggestions and options..

Thanks for all your patience and hearing me out again,
Spekter.
Not sure about how is MSI aftersales support these days since it used to be a PITA a few years back for an RMA. I would stick with a Giga or Asus. (Though local dealer rapport would help here and u can still go with the MSI! )

Else otherwise your config is pretty good at the moment. The 4850 supports most games (at least your COD4/6 at HD gaming) so you should be fine w.r.t gaming temporarily.

Good luck and happy shopping!

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Old 16 Nov 09, 10:49 PM
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Hi,
MSi P55 65 or Gigabyte P55 UD2 both are good.
But the MSi P55 65 had issues
1) Not working with some models ( after going through comments on page 2) of certain branded (like corsair,Corsair, BFG, Thermaltake)Power supplies i.e. channel well supplies, So get it confirmed from someone if it works with your chosen power supply (GA -650)( link: AnandTech: MSI P55-GD65 - Mid-Range P55 for the Masses)

2) It has some issue with auto timing setting of DDR3 rams in excess of 1600 though it would be solved by BIOS update) you should be safe with this problem with DDR3 1333 though. ( same source). And yes it performs slightly better than UD2 .
So just get the two things sorted out n you r good to go


But its at 9 ~ 10 K
So Gigabyte UD2 is much better VFM at 7K !!

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Old 20 Nov 09, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: i5 CPU config..help needed

rajan, let skepter decide which GPU he wud like....to buy

HD4670 or 9600GT
OR
HD4850/GTS250
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Old 20 Nov 09, 03:26 PM
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Hey guys...

Thank you all for your feedback and patience..

Lucky that I was pointed out about the MSI compatibility issue!

I've checked out prices and am going to get the rig next week..

What I've decided on are :

Intel i5 Processor
GA P55 M UD2 Motherboard
4 Gb DDR3 Transcend Ram
Seagate 1 TB HDD
HP DVD Writer
HAF922 or Storm Sniper Cabinet
550vx Corsair Power Supply
Hyper 212 Plus Cooler

Graphics..
1GB ATI HD4770 [DDR5 , Memory Bus Width : 128]
or
1GB ATI HD4850 [DDR3 , Memory Bus Width : 256]


Also,could someone please be kind enough to shed some light on this scary thread..??

Of PSU, UPS, PFC and Sine wave


Thanks..
Spekt.
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Old 20 Nov 09, 06:49 PM
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Get a HD4850 it performs better than 4770 and is cheaper.
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Old 26 Nov 09, 09:49 AM
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Hey guys..something happened and my purchase got deferred by a week or so....I happened to chance upon....

Keep Phenom II X4 955 BE or get i5

Please check out post 22 on this thread..(sorry for the inconvenience,no clue how to direct to a certain post.)

I was aware of this issue but always thought it was happening only to people who were oci'ng.
Fresh complains seem to indicate P55 socket damages even without oc'ing..

Might this affect me?
[GA P55 M UD2 Motherboard]
Thanks..
Spekter

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Old 26 Nov 09, 06:25 PM
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Also,could someone please be kind enough to shed some light on this scary thread..??

Of PSU, UPS, PFC and Sine wave


Thanks..
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That thread is meant to be a light shedding one itself. Why don't you ask your specific question? Perhaps in that very thread.
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Old 26 Nov 09, 07:20 PM
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Hey guys..something happened and my purchase got deferred by a week or so....I happened to chance upon....

Keep Phenom II X4 955 BE or get i5

Please check out post 22 on this thread..(sorry for the inconvenience,no clue how to direct to a certain post.)

I was aware of this issue but always thought it was happening only to people who were oci'ng.
Fresh complains seem to indicate P55 socket damages even without oc'ing..

Might this affect me?
[GA P55 M UD2 Motherboard]
Thanks..
Spekter
Tomshardware has already went past 4ghz oc on P55 without any burns .

It turned out that the motherboard already had over-current protection built-in, and ASRock had simply neglected it in the BIOS, believing that average overclockers wouldn't need it. A BIOS update to version 1.80 was the sole requirement to fix the P55 Pro, and ASRock even had Newegg ship a retail sample from its normal stock to prove this.

Mobo bios max voltage was set at 1.80v default keeping in mind that extreme overclockers would not need it . Now a bios revision ti 1.80v has been issued and no harm has been detected so far .

Follow the links below

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ck,2460-2.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ck,2460-8.html

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i am on i5 750 with gigabyte p55 ud6 and OCed to 3.6 without any issues.
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Originally Posted by Spekter View Post
Hey guys..something happened and my purchase got deferred by a week or so....I happened to chance upon....

Keep Phenom II X4 955 BE or get i5

Please check out post 22 on this thread..(sorry for the inconvenience,no clue how to direct to a certain post.)

I was aware of this issue but always thought it was happening only to people who were oci'ng.
Fresh complains seem to indicate P55 socket damages even without oc'ing..

Might this affect me?
[GA P55 M UD2 Motherboard]
Thanks..
Spekter
You get those problems with some motherboards (Foxconn,has higher cases) and certain LGA 1156 sockets (LOTES, Foxconn). So all boards using foxconn/LOTES sockets will have problem, they have released revised design, not sure about its performance though. Even a gigabyte board has had that problem without overclock but it was a solitary case. So almost all brands have faced this once, either in overclock or without it. But you dont have to be very worried about it as there are few cases only. Chances of socket burn are more due to cracked pins due to improper applied force.

Cheers

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hey spekter.. do share with us the final price at which u actually buy the components.. i too was gonna make a rig for me but things have had to be postponed due to issues.. would like to know what is the actual expenditure
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